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Try discussing here.... 3 months 2 weeks ago #121

jon wrote: My cousin sent this to me.
rumble.com/vkopys-a-pathologist-summary-of-what-these-jabs-do-to-the-brain-and-other-organs.html

Don’t know if it is true.


Gonna go out on a limb and say something posted to rumble.com is probably not that great.

Ohhhh - it's the same group (white coat summit) that promoted Hydroxychloroquine!

Yeah a quick google of that guy doesn't bring up the most flattering stuff either. He was in the running for a medical board, and was quoted as calling vaccines "needle rape". Just wow.

HOLY WOW - just watched the video. This guy is basically bad argument after bad argument. The first thing he says is that there have been 11k deaths attributed to the vaccine, which is simply false. There are 11,000 deaths that the CDC is investigating that occurred after people got the vaccine, that much is true, but the CDC is investigating these out of an abundance of caution, not because they are likely due to the vaccine.

He then goes on to make multiple logically fallacious arguments. He states around 3 and a half minutes in that if you do something, and something else happens, it must be causation. Just wow how did this guy get a medical license? He says those deaths MUST be from the vaccine, because they were given the vaccine, and then they died.

He then says "we must assume this is guilty until we find something else"

oookkkkk....I'd love to be able to use that argument for all sorts of stuff.

At around 8 he says they are saying there are zero cases of injury from the vaccine. I can't speak to the truth of that, but it seems false - it should be common knowledge that there are definitely immunocompromised people or others that may be harmed by the shot.



Yeah, then I looked up the group behind "frontline doctors" - the people who put this video together:

www.snopes.com/news/2020/07/30/americas-frontline-doctors/

I can summarize for you: Crazy conspiracy theory right wing people

also their icann data for their site is now done through anonymize - why would you hide that unless it's all sorts of shady?


TLDR;
In short, that doctor has obvious political motives. The group promoting it has a history of promoting falsehoods, and has had their videos pulled from social media and youtube for promoting falsehoods. Seems like the source is garbo here, folks. Color me surprised!

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Thanks for the research

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jon wrote: My cousin sent this to me.
rumble.com/vkopys-a-pathologist-summary-of-what-these-jabs-do-to-the-brain-and-other-organs.html

Don’t know if it is true.

LOL 30 seconds in and it already worth shutting off.

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jon wrote: My cousin sent this to me.
rumble.com/vkopys-a-pathologist-summary-of-what-these-jabs-do-to-the-brain-and-other-organs.html

Don’t know if it is true.

LOL 30 seconds in and it already worth shutting off.


Thanks so much for saving the rest of us from wasting time. I don't know why, but I can't help but think we're watching Darwinism play out before our eyes. For all those history channel shows about ways in which the world might end, I don't recall them bringing up internet misinformation. I guess they missed that one.

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I am assuming the 11,000 deaths claim is from VAERS, and if it isn't, it can't be taken at face value. Anyone can report info on VAERS. But even if we assume it is accurate, and the 11k died from the vaccination, let's do some math. 195,646,711 Americans have had at least one shot as of 8/10. If 11k really died, that would be 0.005%. Of the 35,410,527 Americans that have tested positive for Covid, 611,955 have died, which is 1.7%. If you get Covid, you'd be 340 times more likely to die of that than you would be if you died from the vaccination.

I don't believe we will see that 11k number stand up to scrutiny.

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balthasar wrote: I am assuming the 11,000 deaths claim is from VAERS, and if it isn't, it can't be taken at face value. Anyone can report info on VAERS. But even if we assume it is accurate, and the 11k died from the vaccination, let's do some math. 195,646,711 Americans have had at least one shot as of 8/10. If 11k really died, that would be 0.005%. Of the 35,410,527 Americans that have tested positive for Covid, 611,955 have died, which is 1.7%. If you get Covid, you'd be 340 times more likely to die of that than you would be if you died from the vaccination.

I don't believe we will see that 11k number stand up to scrutiny.


I don’t believe that 11k people have died from the vaccine but a vaccine with that many deaths wouldn’t be approved

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Dave wrote:

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jon wrote: My cousin sent this to me.
rumble.com/vkopys-a-pathologist-summary-of-what-these-jabs-do-to-the-brain-and-other-organs.html

Don’t know if it is true.

LOL 30 seconds in and it already worth shutting off.


Thanks so much for saving the rest of us from wasting time. I don't know why, but I can't help but think we're watching Darwinism play out before our eyes. For all those history channel shows about ways in which the world might end, I don't recall them bringing up internet misinformation. I guess they missed that one.

After he thanked the "attorneys who fight for freedom" and said how nice it was to "see smiling faces not covered with unnecessary cloth", I had all the information I needed about his presentation.

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Miathan wrote:

balthasar wrote: I am assuming the 11,000 deaths claim is from VAERS, and if it isn't, it can't be taken at face value. Anyone can report info on VAERS. But even if we assume it is accurate, and the 11k died from the vaccination, let's do some math. 195,646,711 Americans have had at least one shot as of 8/10. If 11k really died, that would be 0.005%. Of the 35,410,527 Americans that have tested positive for Covid, 611,955 have died, which is 1.7%. If you get Covid, you'd be 340 times more likely to die of that than you would be if you died from the vaccination.

I don't believe we will see that 11k number stand up to scrutiny.


I don’t believe that 11k people have died from the vaccine but a vaccine with that many deaths wouldn’t be approved

Yeah, I would assume it's more like "11,000 self-reported negative effects" which can include everything from bruising at the injection site up through death.

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Miathan wrote:

balthasar wrote: I am assuming the 11,000 deaths claim is from VAERS, and if it isn't, it can't be taken at face value. Anyone can report info on VAERS. But even if we assume it is accurate, and the 11k died from the vaccination, let's do some math. 195,646,711 Americans have had at least one shot as of 8/10. If 11k really died, that would be 0.005%. Of the 35,410,527 Americans that have tested positive for Covid, 611,955 have died, which is 1.7%. If you get Covid, you'd be 340 times more likely to die of that than you would be if you died from the vaccination.

I don't believe we will see that 11k number stand up to scrutiny.


I don’t believe that 11k people have died from the vaccine but a vaccine with that many deaths wouldn’t be approved

Yeah, I would assume it's more like "11,000 self-reported negative effects" which can include everything from bruising at the injection site up through death.


I totally agree was just making the point that even if the numbers were accurate, refusing to get vaccinated could be hundreds of times more dangerous.

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balthasar wrote:

NightGod wrote:

Miathan wrote:

balthasar wrote: I am assuming the 11,000 deaths claim is from VAERS, and if it isn't, it can't be taken at face value. Anyone can report info on VAERS. But even if we assume it is accurate, and the 11k died from the vaccination, let's do some math. 195,646,711 Americans have had at least one shot as of 8/10. If 11k really died, that would be 0.005%. Of the 35,410,527 Americans that have tested positive for Covid, 611,955 have died, which is 1.7%. If you get Covid, you'd be 340 times more likely to die of that than you would be if you died from the vaccination.

I don't believe we will see that 11k number stand up to scrutiny.


I don’t believe that 11k people have died from the vaccine but a vaccine with that many deaths wouldn’t be approved

Yeah, I would assume it's more like "11,000 self-reported negative effects" which can include everything from bruising at the injection site up through death.


I totally agree was just making the point that even if the numbers were accurate, refusing to get vaccinated could be hundreds of times more dangerous.


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Wade Schwendemann (Dr. Uid) wrote:

balthasar wrote:

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Miathan wrote:

balthasar wrote: I am assuming the 11,000 deaths claim is from VAERS, and if it isn't, it can't be taken at face value. Anyone can report info on VAERS. But even if we assume it is accurate, and the 11k died from the vaccination, let's do some math. 195,646,711 Americans have had at least one shot as of 8/10. If 11k really died, that would be 0.005%. Of the 35,410,527 Americans that have tested positive for Covid, 611,955 have died, which is 1.7%. If you get Covid, you'd be 340 times more likely to die of that than you would be if you died from the vaccination.

I don't believe we will see that 11k number stand up to scrutiny.


I don’t believe that 11k people have died from the vaccine but a vaccine with that many deaths wouldn’t be approved

Yeah, I would assume it's more like "11,000 self-reported negative effects" which can include everything from bruising at the injection site up through death.


I totally agree was just making the point that even if the numbers were accurate, refusing to get vaccinated could be hundreds of times more dangerous.


100% agree


I personally hope that you would demand better out of the science community.

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Miathan wrote:

Wade Schwendemann (Dr. Uid) wrote:

balthasar wrote:

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Miathan wrote:

balthasar wrote: I am assuming the 11,000 deaths claim is from VAERS, and if it isn't, it can't be taken at face value. Anyone can report info on VAERS. But even if we assume it is accurate, and the 11k died from the vaccination, let's do some math. 195,646,711 Americans have had at least one shot as of 8/10. If 11k really died, that would be 0.005%. Of the 35,410,527 Americans that have tested positive for Covid, 611,955 have died, which is 1.7%. If you get Covid, you'd be 340 times more likely to die of that than you would be if you died from the vaccination.

I don't believe we will see that 11k number stand up to scrutiny.


I don’t believe that 11k people have died from the vaccine but a vaccine with that many deaths wouldn’t be approved

Yeah, I would assume it's more like "11,000 self-reported negative effects" which can include everything from bruising at the injection site up through death.


I totally agree was just making the point that even if the numbers were accurate, refusing to get vaccinated could be hundreds of times more dangerous.


100% agree


I personally hope that you would demand better out of the science community.

VAERS is a self-reporting system, not part of the "science community". One of my favorites is someone who reported a death three days after vaccination as being vaccine related-a little digging shows that the death was caused by the child being run over by a car. It was reported because the person believed that the "mercury in the vaccine made the child more magnetic and drew the car to them".

Any statistics that use data from it have a HUGE asterisk added.

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