TOPIC: 2025 Transmuted Tokens

I'm much more concerned about Sunstone Trilliant stacking with Supreme Ring of Elemental Command than I am about stacking with other trilliants, it seems like it'll make it near-impossible to balance elemental damage going forward as players can have anything from -0 to -20 resistance from only two slots.

I'd suggest either making it so that none of the damage types on Sunstone Trilliant overlap with SRoEC, or capping damage resistance at -12 instead of -20. -12 feels like a good number as it allows for greaves together with another -10 token.

Flik wrote: Can we please not do -10 pick element at start. That is only good for multiple runs. Am I the only one that wouldn’t waste $1000 in trade goods for a little better charm of the elements (which I’ve never used) with some saves? But I only do one run a convention or VTD.

$1000 in trade goods gets you +2 AC or 2 Str. That’s the precedent, so let’s not go crazy trying to justify “worth it” because people still made legendary redoubt and still made Surtrs

Okay that’s fine the point I was trying to make is “pick your DR in coaching” is a bad ability and I don’t want that anywhere near this token. This only rewards multiple run players. I’m not building legendaries to guess.

Endgame wrote:

Flik wrote: Can we please not do -10 pick element at start. That is only good for multiple runs. Am I the only one that wouldn’t waste $1000 in trade goods for a little better charm of the elements (which I’ve never used) with some saves? But I only do one run a convention or VTD.

$1000 in trade goods gets you +2 AC or 2 Str. That’s the precedent, so let’s not go crazy trying to justify “worth it” because people still made legendary redoubt and still made Surtrs

As someone that owns Surtrs I wouldn’t craft it again. The game changes and tokens have gotten better. We also need to be willing to look forward and say why would someone buy this? Why would they craft this?

The economy of the game is built on folks buying and striving towards new tokens.

Only partially true. I'm striving towards one particular build that I'm willing to spend money on when I'm able to. Anything else is just a side entertainment if I happen to bump into it.

OrionW wrote:

Endgame wrote:

Flik wrote: Can we please not do -10 pick element at start. That is only good for multiple runs. Am I the only one that wouldn’t waste $1000 in trade goods for a little better charm of the elements (which I’ve never used) with some saves? But I only do one run a convention or VTD.

$1000 in trade goods gets you +2 AC or 2 Str. That’s the precedent, so let’s not go crazy trying to justify “worth it” because people still made legendary redoubt and still made Surtrs

As someone that owns Surtrs I wouldn’t craft it again. The game changes and tokens have gotten better. We also need to be willing to look forward and say why would someone buy this? Why would they craft this?

The economy of the game is built on folks buying and striving towards new tokens.

Would you buy it though? The Mystic Girdle is coming.

Maybe I'm missing it somewhere,,, are there proposed stats and recipes posted for the mentioned mythic/mystic items?

Mongo64 wrote: Maybe I'm missing it somewhere,,, are there proposed stats and recipes posted for the mentioned mythic/mystic items?

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Edit: At the bottom.

Wade Schwendemann (Dr. Uid) wrote:

OrionW wrote:

Endgame wrote:

Flik wrote: Can we please not do -10 pick element at start. That is only good for multiple runs. Am I the only one that wouldn’t waste $1000 in trade goods for a little better charm of the elements (which I’ve never used) with some saves? But I only do one run a convention or VTD.

$1000 in trade goods gets you +2 AC or 2 Str. That’s the precedent, so let’s not go crazy trying to justify “worth it” because people still made legendary redoubt and still made Surtrs

As someone that owns Surtrs I wouldn’t craft it again. The game changes and tokens have gotten better. We also need to be willing to look forward and say why would someone buy this? Why would they craft this?

The economy of the game is built on folks buying and striving towards new tokens.

Would you buy it though? The Mystic Girdle is coming.

I will transmute it into the Mystic Girdle if I decide to chase that level of difficulty. To be honest though outside of GT and Patron I tend to play nightmare and avoid epic. I would rather play a themed run with a larger pool of players than be one of the few at the top.

Ah,,, I see said the blind man. So we're going to be in the dark for a while about the mythic recipes. 😔

Flik wrote: Can we please not do -10 pick element at start. That is only good for multiple runs. Am I the only one that wouldn’t waste $1000 in trade goods for a little better charm of the elements (which I’ve never used) with some saves? But I only do one run a convention or VTD.

What if the DR ability was: "Once per game, as an Instant (re)Action, gain 10 DR against one of: Cold, Fire, Sacred, Shock, or Sonic. This bonus lasts for the rest of the dungeon." Would it be worth it then?

Flik wrote: Also no on temporary healing. Like it’s a glorified lamp of the Marid.

Out of curiosity, what's the objection? Too weak? Too unreliable? Too many things to remember?

Ho-Yi Fung wrote:

Flik wrote: Can we please not do -10 pick element at start. That is only good for multiple runs. Am I the only one that wouldn’t waste $1000 in trade goods for a little better charm of the elements (which I’ve never used) with some saves? But I only do one run a convention or VTD.

What if the DR ability was: "Once per game, as an Instant (re)Action, gain 10 DR against one of: Cold, Fire, Sacred, Shock, or Sonic. This bonus lasts for the rest of the dungeon." Would it be worth it then?

Flik wrote: Also no on temporary healing. Like it’s a glorified lamp of the Marid.

Out of curiosity, what's the objection? Too weak? Too unreliable? Too many things to remember?

A little too close to what we have seen on rare items.
tokendb.com/token/lamp-of-the-marid/