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TOPIC: 2025 Ultra Rare Token Ideas

2025 Ultra Rare Token Ideas 4 months 2 weeks ago #61

Amulet of Wonder or Ring of Wonder
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2025 Ultra Rare Token Ideas 4 months 2 weeks ago #62

Trinket of the Great Wolf - UR
Allows transformation into a Great Wolf.
Decent Damage wheel (5 point wheel 8, 10, 12, 12, 16.)
On a nat 20, if the wheel is on 16, the foe's head is torn off. For druids, any nat 20 has this effect.
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2025 Ultra Rare Token Ideas 4 months 2 weeks ago #63

Fred K wrote: Trinket of the Great Wolf - UR
Allows transformation into a Great Wolf.
Decent Damage wheel (5 point wheel 8, 10, 12, 12, 16.)
On a nat 20, if the wheel is on 16, the foe's head is torn off. For druids, any nat 20 has this effect.

Unrestricted instakill on a UR? Really OP.

Jeff Martin wrote: All damage is Sacred.

Acherin wrote: I also added VTD support for the most annoying token of 2024 the +2 Sun Scimitar.

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2025 Ultra Rare Token Ideas 4 months 2 weeks ago #64

Grizwald wrote:

Fred K wrote: Trinket of the Great Wolf - UR
Allows transformation into a Great Wolf.
Decent Damage wheel (5 point wheel 8, 10, 12, 12, 16.)
On a nat 20, if the wheel is on 16, the foe's head is torn off. For druids, any nat 20 has this effect.

Unrestricted instakill on a UR? Really OP.


This would also be classed as a Druid only item. Jeff mentioned that during class card revamp that the “ Trinkets “ would be Druid only and unlike the poly potions, never have to be turned in. It was stated that more separation of certain items / skills to make each class more unique and allow them to expand and make shine the classes / subclasses, the way they want to. So if this was made into a token, it would be Druid only, any nat 20 is an insta kill unless immune. But that kinda cuts into Ava’s “ outsider “ kill which only works on specific creatures.
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2025 Ultra Rare Token Ideas 4 months 2 weeks ago #65

Tyraël The Just wrote:

Grizwald wrote:

Fred K wrote: Trinket of the Great Wolf - UR
Allows transformation into a Great Wolf.
Decent Damage wheel (5 point wheel 8, 10, 12, 12, 16.)
On a nat 20, if the wheel is on 16, the foe's head is torn off. For druids, any nat 20 has this effect.

Unrestricted instakill on a UR? Really OP.


This would also be classed as a Druid only item. Jeff mentioned that during class card revamp that the “ Trinkets “ would be Druid only and unlike the poly potions, never have to be turned in. It was stated that more separation of certain items / skills to make each class more unique and allow them to expand and make shine the classes / subclasses, the way they want to. So if this was made into a token, it would be Druid only, any nat 20 is an insta kill unless immune. But that kinda cuts into Ava’s “ outsider “ kill which only works on specific creatures.

Insta kill on a UR is usually restricted to a single number and single target type (ex, giant). Beyond that, I’d recommend against giving the jack of all trades class an insta kill in general.
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2025 Ultra Rare Token Ideas 4 months 2 weeks ago #66

Tyraël The Just wrote:

Grizwald wrote:

Fred K wrote: Trinket of the Great Wolf - UR
Allows transformation into a Great Wolf.
Decent Damage wheel (5 point wheel 8, 10, 12, 12, 16.)
On a nat 20, if the wheel is on 16, the foe's head is torn off. For druids, any nat 20 has this effect.

Unrestricted instakill on a UR? Really OP.


This would also be classed as a Druid only item. Jeff mentioned that during class card revamp that the “ Trinkets “ would be Druid only and unlike the poly potions, never have to be turned in. It was stated that more separation of certain items / skills to make each class more unique and allow them to expand and make shine the classes / subclasses, the way they want to. So if this was made into a token, it would be Druid only, any nat 20 is an insta kill unless immune. But that kinda cuts into Ava’s “ outsider “ kill which only works on specific creatures.


While technically correct that it would be a Druid only token, by the established ruling for trinket poly tokens, Rangers equipping Ralson’s would also be able to use the Trinket as an Animal Friend attack.
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2025 Ultra Rare Token Ideas 4 months 2 weeks ago #67

Ah, it would need to be nat 20 and target number insta-kill. If specific down to creature, Giants would be a thematic fit.
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Items for Sale or Trade
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2025 Ultra Rare Token Ideas 4 months 2 weeks ago #68

Balance issues aside, instant kill effects are, I think, not very fun in general.

They are fun for the person who scores the kill, and possibly fun for a group who knows that is what is happening and trying to nudge the token onto the 20 or use it in conjunction with Divine Intervention, etc.. I know there is an epic story with Smoak, a Longspear of Dragonslaying, and a celeb guest.

But in general, and having one player one shot the monster is not fun much of the time - there is too much potential that it leaves the party standing around in a room for 10 minutes, or makes an end fight where people have saved up resources the entire run to master is anticlimactic.
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2025 Ultra Rare Token Ideas 4 months 2 weeks ago #69

What if instead of insta-kill abilities, give +100 damage.
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2025 Ultra Rare Token Ideas 4 months 2 weeks ago #70

Fenrir is a legendary creature, so it would be appropriate for the token to have a special ability.

Destroying constructs on a 20 was already included in on a rare polymorph token.

tokendb.com/token/potion-polymorph-gremlin/

So what Fred proposed at the UR level for a Trinket of Fenrir is probably okay, but so would be another ability that captures that uniquely vicious nature of Fenrir in Viking mythology.

Trinkets have largely obsoleted a lot of what made the Druid class legendary special, so I would like to see the class get some love this year.
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2025 Ultra Rare Token Ideas 4 months 2 weeks ago #71

Cursed Charm
Whenever you use a non-attack ability which deals damage, change the type of all of that damage to Eldritch.

This would let people have some fun builds with FoPs: Reaver, Horror, and Stalker Squirrel, and Psyferre's Spectacles without worrying about DR, at the cost of a Charm slot.
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2025 Ultra Rare Token Ideas 4 months 2 weeks ago #72

Iross wrote: Cursed Charm
Whenever you use a non-attack ability which deals damage, change the type of all of that damage to Eldritch.

This would let people have some fun builds with FoPs: Reaver, Horror, and Stalker Squirrel, and Psyferre's Spectacles without worrying about DR, at the cost of a Charm slot.


Probably need to state this doesn't apply to retribution damage.
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