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FINAL TOKEN IMAGES for 2024! <== LOOK ! 1 year 1 month ago #13

Allen John wrote:

Rob F wrote: Robe of Aset should be Silk instead of AG if you want to be consistent with past Rare Robes.


From the tokendb page for Aragonite :

*Starting with the 2022 print run, anything that equips in the Torso slot counts as armor and is exchangeable for either Aragonite, Minotaur Hide, or Oil of Enchantment. This change is not retroactive. Older Torso items made out of cloth (e.g., robes) keep their previous conversion designation. If you’re not certain, look the item up here in the TDb and check its stat block.


Thanks for pointing this out!
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FINAL TOKEN IMAGES for 2024! <== LOOK ! 1 year 1 month ago #14

If you are updating the FAQ, I would also suggest adding the information about the Polymorph potions going away and being replaced by Trinkets.
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FINAL TOKEN IMAGES for 2024! <== LOOK ! 1 year 1 month ago #15

Rob F wrote: - Charm of the Empty Palm, I'm scratching my head on this one so maybe I'm missing something. According to Tokendb there are only 4 offhand Melee Tokens, two of them UR, one Rare and a Common from 2009. I'm not sure any player with this charm would be equipping those Tokens so why the restriction? And at this level why restrict Monks and Rangers? Charm of the empty palm sounds very "monkish" to me.


You can't equip a shield and this token to get the benefit.

Rangers should be attacking with a weapon in melee offhand, so that explains that.

Monk's I understand your point thematically, but giving Monks +1 to melee damage with a common charm is too good (see tokendb.com/token/ring-of-icy-ki/ for comparison).

This token is basically Charm of Rampage - except for single melee weapon users.
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FINAL TOKEN IMAGES for 2024! <== LOOK ! 1 year 1 month ago #16

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Rob F wrote: - Charm of the Empty Palm, I'm scratching my head on this one so maybe I'm missing something. According to Tokendb there are only 4 offhand Melee Tokens, two of them UR, one Rare and a Common from 2009. I'm not sure any player with this charm would be equipping those Tokens so why the restriction? And at this level why restrict Monks and Rangers? Charm of the empty palm sounds very "monkish" to me.


You can't equip a shield and this token to get the benefit.

Rangers should be attacking with a weapon in melee offhand, so that explains that.

Monk's I understand your point thematically, but giving Monks +1 to melee damage with a common charm is too good (see tokendb.com/token/ring-of-icy-ki/ for comparison).

This token is basically Charm of Rampage - except for single melee weapon users.


The Token says no offhand "Melee" item, I did not think shields were off hand "Melee" items in this context. Only Orb of Might, Brawler's Horn, etc. which is what confused me.
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FINAL TOKEN IMAGES for 2024! <== LOOK ! 1 year 1 month ago #17

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Rob F wrote: Common:

- Magus Dust is +2 to spell damage whereas the previous 2017 and 2021 dusts were only +1. But maybe this is an intended bump. The text on Magus is also different then the text on the 2017 and 2021 dusts.

Jeff stated in an earlier round that this was an intentional bump this year.

Tokens look great, though I'm saddened to see that the sandstorm remained so well-mannered.

Is it intended that there are three items (Potions Moon Spirits and Moon Wine and Salve of Salvation) that can cure Diseased but only one (Salve of Salvation) that can cure Poisoned? Not a huge issue or anything, I just noticed the imbalance
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FINAL TOKEN IMAGES for 2024! <== LOOK ! 1 year 1 month ago #18

Rob F wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Rob F wrote: - Charm of the Empty Palm, I'm scratching my head on this one so maybe I'm missing something. According to Tokendb there are only 4 offhand Melee Tokens, two of them UR, one Rare and a Common from 2009. I'm not sure any player with this charm would be equipping those Tokens so why the restriction? And at this level why restrict Monks and Rangers? Charm of the empty palm sounds very "monkish" to me.


You can't equip a shield and this token to get the benefit.

Rangers should be attacking with a weapon in melee offhand, so that explains that.

Monk's I understand your point thematically, but giving Monks +1 to melee damage with a common charm is too good (see tokendb.com/token/ring-of-icy-ki/ for comparison).

This token is basically Charm of Rampage - except for single melee weapon users.


The Token says no offhand "Melee" item, I did not think shields were off hand "Melee" items in this context. Only Orb of Might, Brawler's Horn, etc. which is what confused me.


Yeah, it's a bit confusing.

Melee mainhand
Melee offhand

Ranged mainhand
Ranged offhand

truedungeon.com/resources/item/51-character-class-guide

The tokens like Brawler's Horn, Captains Mug, Orb of Might, etc. go the same place shields do I guess.
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FINAL TOKEN IMAGES for 2024! <== LOOK ! 1 year 1 month ago #19

Rob F wrote: Robe of Aset should be Silk instead of AG if you want to be consistent with past Rare Robes.


Thanks. Recently, we changed anything that boosts AC in the Torso slot is treated as armor.
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FINAL TOKEN IMAGES for 2024! <== LOOK ! 1 year 1 month ago #20

Ho-Yi Fung wrote: If there's still time for a small edit, Death Knight Cloak should read "+2 to saves", as pointed out by Endgame in the previous thread . My mistake!


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FINAL TOKEN IMAGES for 2024! <== LOOK ! 1 year 1 month ago #21

Probably too little, too late. But I'd like it if the "special" tokens with the double dots had double something else instead. Like double tiny stars or something. Just to clarify that they are special.

So no dots = common, left dot = uncommon, right dot = rare, double stars = wow, something cool.
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FINAL TOKEN IMAGES for 2024! <== LOOK ! 1 year 1 month ago #22

Rob F wrote: Common:

- Magus Dust is +2 to spell damage whereas the previous 2017 and 2021 dusts were only +1. But maybe this is an intended bump. The text on Magus is also different then the text on the 2017 and 2021 dusts.

- Charm of the Empty Palm, I'm scratching my head on this one so maybe I'm missing something. According to Tokendb there are only 4 offhand Melee Tokens, two of them UR, one Rare and a Common from 2009. I'm not sure any player with this charm would be equipping those Tokens so why the restriction? And at this level why restrict Monks and Rangers? Charm of the empty palm sounds very "monkish" to me.

Uncommon:

- Scepter of Seth text should read "+2 damage in Desert" if you want to be consistent with the other Uncommon weapons that say "Desert" instead of "Deserts"

- Armor of Ra, remove the "to" after +3, should read: "+7 to AC and +3 Retribution Damage to Undead"

- Pants of Shai's Blessing, I think you can remove the word "only" from the text, reads better that way.


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FINAL TOKEN IMAGES for 2024! <== LOOK ! 1 year 1 month ago #23

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Rob F wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Rob F wrote: - Charm of the Empty Palm, I'm scratching my head on this one so maybe I'm missing something. According to Tokendb there are only 4 offhand Melee Tokens, two of them UR, one Rare and a Common from 2009. I'm not sure any player with this charm would be equipping those Tokens so why the restriction? And at this level why restrict Monks and Rangers? Charm of the empty palm sounds very "monkish" to me.


You can't equip a shield and this token to get the benefit.

Rangers should be attacking with a weapon in melee offhand, so that explains that.

Monk's I understand your point thematically, but giving Monks +1 to melee damage with a common charm is too good (see tokendb.com/token/ring-of-icy-ki/ for comparison).

This token is basically Charm of Rampage - except for single melee weapon users.


The Token says no offhand "Melee" item, I did not think shields were off hand "Melee" items in this context. Only Orb of Might, Brawler's Horn, etc. which is what confused me.


Yeah, it's a bit confusing.

Melee mainhand
Melee offhand

Ranged mainhand
Ranged offhand

truedungeon.com/resources/item/51-character-class-guide

The tokens like Brawler's Horn, Captains Mug, Orb of Might, etc. go the same place shields do I guess.


We just changed it to Shield to avoid confusion. Thanks.
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FINAL TOKEN IMAGES for 2024! <== LOOK ! 1 year 1 month ago #24

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