TOPIC: Final Transmuted Images (Who Are We Kidding?)

Exbalz wrote: I think this is the best version yet at all 3 levels for these gloves. The Ultra Rare provides an alternative to GoGA (Do I want to trade off 2 points of damage for an expanded crit range [assuming no other crit expanders equipped]?), the Relic is an upgrade to GoGA for missile attacks, and the legendary feels powerful with a limiting factor that leaves design space for crits in the future and isn't broken when applied to dual puck sliders.

The only question becomes, does this provide any enhanced benefit for Dwarf Fighters given they already have this ability?

After giving this some more thought and comparison to other crit expansion mechanics, I agree with the sentiment that the expanded crit range would be better left off the UR token. I like leaving space for Amulet of Aiming to be relevant at the UR level. A simple change would be to make the UR gloves +3 damage with no crit expansion given that the Ring of Havoc chain starts with +2 damage on an UR ring, which is inferior to other UR rings on a pure damage basis.

The UR gloves seem weaker than just 4 str gloves. The Relics are debatably stronger than 4 str gloves, since they cannot be used interchangeably for melee and ranged, so expanded crit and maybe a crit expansion? I have not read the whole thread, I assume the expanded crit range follows the discussion and updates from the recent rogue threads? Ish?
The legendary, is better than 4str UR gloves, and likely better than 5 str. So the legendary is good, ish. If the recipie for the relic and legendary is more inline with say a 2014 recipie, this will be a good thing, I might even make the ranged ones so benrows can have an awesome crit once a room.

The ioun stone I liked significantly more. Stacking, and potentially being cheap, and a new effect. This, so long as it is more aligned with 2014 legendary pricing, will be awesome, if it is anything like last year, I’ll have an awesome shirt at least!

Hat of the Lucky Pirate: feels a bit weak for the head slot. Consider that a rare ioun stone gives you the same effect. Perhaps +2 to saves? Still not going to be used by many high-end builds, if any, but better for newbies.

Ioun stone of healing, heals 1 hp each round of combat. Would this at relic be too powerful? It could also be after each guess in a puzzle … or maybe just 3 in a puzzle room? Sorry my brain is in a strange place, thought I’d post.

I think the gloves are fine but again they won't be on a path for me I tend to like my +4 str gloves and the same to hit trade off doesn't do it for me, fighters legendary already gives me crit expanded and I can play a dwarf for x 3, I think you would be better off with +2 to the stat for relic and +4 to legendary and then add some +2 same to relic and +4 dam ero legendary

Endgame wrote: If we are wishlisting glove ideas, my super idea gloves:

Gloves of divine direction
+2 str
+2 Dex
+2 Healing

Gloves of divine guidance
+3 str
+3 Dex
+3 Healing

Endgame’s gloves of divine guidance
+4 str
+4 Dex
+4 Healing

I like this idea. Names need some work.

Kirk Bauer wrote: Hat of the Lucky Pirate: feels a bit weak for the head slot. Consider that a rare ioun stone gives you the same effect. Perhaps +2 to saves? Still not going to be used by many high-end builds, if any, but better for newbies.

It’s a 3* hat, so the power is probably inline with a pack rare (ish). Basically, it’s taking the best part of the defender helm, and giving it to all classes, so it’s probably ok as is.

Jeff;

Is there going to be a 2020/2021/2022 monster bit 4C?

Grizwald wrote:

Endgame wrote: If we are wishlisting glove ideas, my super idea gloves:

Gloves of divine direction
+2 str
+2 Dex
+2 Healing

Gloves of divine guidance
+3 str
+3 Dex
+3 Healing

Endgame’s gloves of divine guidance
+4 str
+4 Dex
+4 Healing

I like this idea. Names need some work.

I also like some line of this to give healers a little love.

Exbalz wrote: The images on the far gloves are fingerless on the UR and Legendary versions but not the relic, is that intentional?

The Relic has 2 fingers missing. Good for mountain adventures!

Endgame wrote: Is arcanum shirt set in stone as the name? If not, what about:
shirt of wonder
Wonderous Shirt
Shirt of many colors
(Can brain storm a lot of it’s not decided)

While we're talking names, Amulet of Magnifying seems like it could use some work. Maybe:
Amulet of Intensity?
Amulet of Fitness?
Magnified Amulet?

Arcanum Shirt: The plan is to have all the items in the Arcanum set have the same prefix so its easier to understand they are a set...and have set bonuses.

Amulet: It is transmuted from the Magnifying Glass -- hence the name.

Exbalz wrote: The only question becomes, does this provide any enhanced benefit for Dwarf Fighters given they already have this ability?

It will give them exactly the same benefit as all others. The 5th level Dwarf Crit Power is its own separate thing.