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2022 Recipe Discussion 3 months 1 week ago #97

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balthasar wrote: They will be redeemable until sometime in 2023, right?


That’s similar time frame for relic creation timelines from 2022 right?


Relics are usually until December 1 of the following year I believe.
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2022 Recipe Discussion 3 months 1 week ago #98

the date is probably set as it is so that the last chance to redeem is Gen Con 2023.
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2022 Recipe Discussion 3 months 1 week ago #99

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macxdmg wrote: That’s similar time frame for relic creation timelines from 2022 right?

If you're not sure when a given transmuted token's recipe expires, just look it up on the TDb . A recipe's expiration date is shown right below the recipe.
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2022 Recipe Discussion 3 months 1 week ago #100

Endgame wrote: the date is probably set as it is so that the last chance to redeem is Gen Con 2023.


PAX West generally runs over Labor Day weekend, so the date seems to make PAX West the first convention in 2023 you couldn't redeem it. Assuming TD goes back there :)
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2022 Recipe Discussion 3 months 1 week ago #101

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For those who may be curious:
www.gencon.com/attend/futuredates
Gen Con 2022: August 4-7, 2022
Gen Con 2023: August 3-6, 2023
Gen Con 2024: August 1-4, 2024
Gen Con 2025: July 31 – August 3, 2025
Gen Con 2026: July 30 – August 2, 2026
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2022 Recipe Discussion 3 months 1 week ago #102

Back to the recipes, any chance of a MH reduction for either an increase in oil of Enchantment or Aragonite?
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2022 Recipe Discussion 3 months 1 week ago #103

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One last ditch effort for a decrease in MH

2020
There were 10 tokens that converted to Dwarven Steel
There were 7 tokens that converted to MH
2021
9 DS
6 MH
2022 math might be off because I miscounted.
9 DS
4 MH (I don't think caps count if the do 2 more).

Seems like we get about a 3/2 ratio of DS to MH. I think that means HM should be a be about 1/3 less (or 2/3 of) what DS should be because for the last 3 years that is been about how fewer there have been.
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2022 Recipe Discussion 3 months 1 week ago #104

Wade Schwendemann (Dr. Uid) wrote: Back to the recipes, any chance of a MH reduction for either an increase in oil of Enchantment or Aragonite?

Or, per your previous suggestion, -Hide + Silk.

Basically, please don't have a single relic use nearly a whole 8k worth of Hide.

To reiterate my last post on this subject:

I think it would be fair for relics to use 4 hide, and legendaries to use 16 hide - thus providing either 8 relics of hide from an 8k, or 2 legendaries of hide from an 8k.
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2022 Recipe Discussion 3 months 1 week ago #105

Druegar wrote:

macxdmg wrote: That’s similar time frame for relic creation timelines from 2022 right?

If you're not sure when a given transmuted token's recipe expires, just look it up on the TDb . A recipe's expiration date is shown right below the recipe.


I looked for the ring of havoc and found nothing, I think the 2022 relics are not up yet. The book says Dec 2023 which is in my view a “similar timeline”.

So for example the increase from say a relic necklace compared with a relic ring, from 2021 to 2022 has +5 ai, +5 ap +5 dp -1 eb +15 mh -5 ms and the ring is applicable to all builds not just the fighter.

The higher cost are all in trade 1 items, and a spectacular new sink for trade 1 is being added. Maybe I’m looking at it wrong, maybe everyone else thinks the map is only going to be pulled from the treasure box and nobody is going to make them?

I’ll roll with Jedi, endgame, and dr uid and at least ask for a delta in that case, and also ask why for the maps then?
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2022 Recipe Discussion 3 months 1 week ago #106

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macxdmg wrote: [?

I’ll roll with Jedi, endgame, and dr uid and at least ask for a delta in that case, and also ask why for the maps then?

to be clear I am not planning on making the maps not because they or may not be in the treasure boxes. They are a sink and I don't currently have the tokens to sink into. With my current stock and wanting to make 1 of each of the relics I would be in the negatives for DP and low on silk. Yes I will get more tokens between now and when I plan on making stuff but at the rates trade goods are climbing I don't need a sink. That is NOT to say that we don't need one, just that I personally don't with the Huge increases in transmute cost.
I am sending stuff for a Thor's and a 2021 relic and am struck by the fact the this uber powerful legendary required less tokens than the 2021 relic.
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2022 Recipe Discussion 3 months 1 week ago #107

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I’ll roll with Jedi, endgame, and dr uid and at least ask for a delta in that case, and also ask why for the maps then?

to be clear I am not planning on making the maps not because they or may not be in the treasure boxes. They are a sink and I don't currently have the tokens to sink into. With my current stock and wanting to make 1 of each of the relics I would be in the negatives for DP and low on silk. Yes I will get more tokens between now and when I plan on making stuff but at the rates trade goods are climbing I don't need a sink. That is NOT to say that we don't need one, just that I personally don't with the Huge increases in transmute cost.
I am sending stuff for a Thor's and a 2021 relic and am struck by the fact the this uber powerful legendary required less tokens than the 2021 relic.


I’m okay with the legendary having the same or more tokens required from year to year, just like to understand why they go up. The relics this year seem more than 10% higher or 5% higher. Maybe my perception is low though and I am missing something.
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2022 Recipe Discussion 3 months 1 week ago #108

I think we as players are generally in agreement that the MH requirements are too high.

I'm pretty good with everything else, although like everyone I would like things a little less in general.

I don't want commons in the treasure mix, but it is going to be very difficult to get the necessary hide at these levels.

Like, I may have to start trading rares for commons tough, instead of just giving them away.
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