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2022 Rare Final Kind of 1 year 2 months ago #49

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As they currently exist, I could make them work for my ranged Rogue with the cutbacks they would invoke to the build as mentioned in the above posts. If they got moved to UR or Relic to remove the penalty, just as good. Either way this provides and alternate path around a whole gamut of limitations for the Rogue Class. The key to their usefulness in balancing out the Rogue build hinges entirely on them NOT being in the Bracer Slot. I could see new rogue players liking these. But if they are going to get thrown out, as is, this year, then seeing them as glasses in another year at UR or higher is fine, but it could end up putting a looong delay in determining whether or not rogues can take off their bracers. Especially if it gets skipped the next year, and crowded out the next year, and then again the next year... For me, taking them right now would let me get to work restructuring my build which would be quite exciting. Otherwise we're waiting until 2023, at minimum, just to find out if we can begin restructuring. But, however it has to go for this year and next year is how it will have to go.

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2022 Rare Final Kind of 1 year 2 months ago #50

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Haven't read through all the comments, so someone may have said this - On Gambler's Grenade, "later" should be "latter."
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2022 Rare Final Kind of 1 year 2 months ago #51

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As a wizard I am not sure of the melee "hands" rules. I equip a staff of focus - does that mean I cannot use the Captain's Cup, since I am using a two-handed weapon and therefore don't have a melle off-hand slot?

And didn't the Cup used to be a save bonus, not AC? Why make it weaker?
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bpsymington wrote: As a wizard I am not sure of the melee "hands" rules. I equip a staff of focus - does that mean I cannot use the Captain's Cup, since I am using a two-handed weapon and therefore don't have a melle off-hand slot?

And didn't the Cup used to be a save bonus, not AC? Why make it weaker?

Jeff mentioned the cup has been reworked to be slotless, but can only be worn if you don't wear any URs.

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NightGod wrote:

bpsymington wrote: As a wizard I am not sure of the melee "hands" rules. I equip a staff of focus - does that mean I cannot use the Captain's Cup, since I am using a two-handed weapon and therefore don't have a melle off-hand slot?

And didn't the Cup used to be a save bonus, not AC? Why make it weaker?

Jeff mentioned the cup has been reworked to be slotless, but can only be worn if you don't wear any URs.


Ah. No thanks, then.
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2022 Rare Final Kind of 1 year 2 months ago #54

bpsymington wrote:

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bpsymington wrote: As a wizard I am not sure of the melee "hands" rules. I equip a staff of focus - does that mean I cannot use the Captain's Cup, since I am using a two-handed weapon and therefore don't have a melle off-hand slot?

And didn't the Cup used to be a save bonus, not AC? Why make it weaker?

Jeff mentioned the cup has been reworked to be slotless, but can only be worn if you don't wear any URs.


Ah. No thanks, then.


Also yes, you can never use an off hand item with your Staff of Focus unless it's a ranged off hand item as your staff is in your melee slot and takes both hand spots

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Jeff Martin wrote: Thanks all! If we want to replace the UR Guide Strike then that should take another UR to move the power to another slot. Remind me next year to explore that. Thanks.

Perhaps pull one of the three items adding to ranged this year (belt, gloves, specs) and replace with the guided strike substitute?

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2022 Rare Final Kind of 1 year 2 months ago #56

NightGod wrote:

Jeff Martin wrote: Thanks all! If we want to replace the UR Guide Strike then that should take another UR to move the power to another slot. Remind me next year to explore that. Thanks.

Perhaps pull one of the three items adding to ranged this year (belt, gloves, specs) and replace with the guided strike substitute?


The gloves if any of them go.

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NightGod wrote:

Jeff Martin wrote: Thanks all! If we want to replace the UR Guide Strike then that should take another UR to move the power to another slot. Remind me next year to explore that. Thanks.

Perhaps pull one of the three items adding to ranged this year (belt, gloves, specs) and replace with the guided strike substitute?


The gloves if any of them go.


I agree with this - if any UR Guided Strike item does happen, then the gloves would be the best choice to remove. Sniper Spectacles were one of the most asked-for reprints after Earcuff of Orbits, and a dedicated Ranged belt is something which is needed.
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2022 Rare Final Kind of 1 year 2 months ago #58

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Arcanist Kolixela wrote:

NightGod wrote:

Jeff Martin wrote: Thanks all! If we want to replace the UR Guide Strike then that should take another UR to move the power to another slot. Remind me next year to explore that. Thanks.

Perhaps pull one of the three items adding to ranged this year (belt, gloves, specs) and replace with the guided strike substitute?


The gloves if any of them go.


I agree with this - if any UR Guided Strike item does happen, then the gloves would be the best choice to remove. Sniper Spectacles were one of the most asked-for reprints after Earcuff of Orbits, and a dedicated Ranged belt is something which is needed.


Gloves of guided strike seems pretty legit.

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Azzy wrote:

Iross wrote:

Arcanist Kolixela wrote:

NightGod wrote:

Jeff Martin wrote: Thanks all! If we want to replace the UR Guide Strike then that should take another UR to move the power to another slot. Remind me next year to explore that. Thanks.

Perhaps pull one of the three items adding to ranged this year (belt, gloves, specs) and replace with the guided strike substitute?


The gloves if any of them go.


I agree with this - if any UR Guided Strike item does happen, then the gloves would be the best choice to remove. Sniper Spectacles were one of the most asked-for reprints after Earcuff of Orbits, and a dedicated Ranged belt is something which is needed.


Gloves of guided strike seems pretty legit.

I would be ok with this from a balance perspective but still think it's too soon for a guided strike reprint.
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2022 Rare Final Kind of 1 year 2 months ago #60

Picc wrote:

Azzy wrote:

Iross wrote:

Arcanist Kolixela wrote:

NightGod wrote:

Jeff Martin wrote: Thanks all! If we want to replace the UR Guide Strike then that should take another UR to move the power to another slot. Remind me next year to explore that. Thanks.

Perhaps pull one of the three items adding to ranged this year (belt, gloves, specs) and replace with the guided strike substitute?


The gloves if any of them go.


I agree with this - if any UR Guided Strike item does happen, then the gloves would be the best choice to remove. Sniper Spectacles were one of the most asked-for reprints after Earcuff of Orbits, and a dedicated Ranged belt is something which is needed.


Gloves of guided strike seems pretty legit.

I would be ok with this from a balance perspective but still think it's too soon for a guided strike reprint.


Agreed, that's why it should be the same/similar effect on a different token in a different slot and thus not a reprint.

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