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2022 Special Token Images 3 years 2 days ago #49

Starting with Ring of the 5th Circle and not the 1st Circle... i like if we're counting down from year to year... gives us a definite idea of how many years we can expect (barring any major changes in plan).

But, If you want to make the Arcanum Piece into a six year item at a future time, your only logical course would be to make a 6th ring named "Ring of the Center Circle" or something. if you decided to make it a 7 or 8 year thing instead, then I'm not sure what to do except print 6th and 7th at a later date.

Since we've always started with 1 and ended with higher numbers, this could send a lot of people into confusion as they determine values of tokens for trade/sale.

Of course, if It's just a name and the other rings have no connection to a numbered sequence in the name, then this post can be disregarded.
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2022 Special Token Images 3 years 2 days ago #50

Ho-Yi Fung wrote: Charm of the Champion: presumably a volunteer-UR, given that Amulet of the Champion was also a volunteer-UR. Even so, way too powerful -- it combine the effects of two other recent volunteer-UR's, the Greater Onyx Charm and Greater Quicksilver Charm !

Charm of the Hero: same as above, but on the volunteer-rare tier: it combines Onyx Charm with Quicksilver Charm

Ring of the Champion, Ring of the Hero: both are on the strong side, seeing as the only STR boosting ring is the standard-pack-rare Ring of the Hallowed , at +1; and the only DEX boosting ring is the standard-pack-rare Ring of the Anointed , also at +1

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Ring of the Hallowed was an Appreciation Token, was it not? (according to the link you shared) So it is less available than Anointed. Making the combination that much more powerful.
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2022 Special Token Images 3 years 2 days ago #51

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These all look very cool. Thanks for giving us a sneak peak.

One thing (and I realize it's a nitpick) is that the art on the transmuted Dragonkind orbs seems.... I dunno... not as cool as the art on some of the individual Dragon orbs? I'm not sure exactly what I was expecting... Possibly more colour (like the Supreme Ring or Boots or Kilt?) ... which I recognize upon typing is due to those transmutes being a combination of different elements, where these are just a bunch of red orbs being combined. But it still feels like it needs a bit more *shiny* to it. Either going into metallics for the Orbs, or having rainbow flare behind them.

That's a minor thing tho, and I would be quite happy to have either of these as printed. Just, ya know.... if that art guy had nothing else to do, maybe he could look into it?
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2022 Special Token Images 3 years 2 days ago #52

Arcanist Kolixela wrote:

Fiddy wrote:

Rob F wrote:

Arcanist Kolixela wrote:

Brokkr wrote: Do we have an idea of what the Ring of the Arcanum Circle will end up looking like? I'm not particularly excited about +2 AC in a ring slot.

The Basic/Very Basic Greaves took me a minute.


My rough guess would be

2 AC
2 Focus
2 STR
2 DEX
2 CON or Saves


Just off a random viewing


That would be the most powerful Grand Eldritch type Token so far.


It would also be (I assume) still in the Ring slot instead of slotless. Ring slot is often considered second only to Neck. I don't think Arcanist's guess is too far off the right power level.


Strictly speaking it'd be the weakest Ring I have for my spellcaster. Less damage than the Greater Focus with a bonus of 2 saves and +1 to spell slides. and Technically 2 AC (lol)

Most classes would get 1 build centric buff (STR DEX or FOCUS) one or two side build buffs (STR or DEX) and 2 generic buffs (AC and Saves or CON)

It'd be strong but so spread out it'd be not overly so.

And compared to the Rod of Seven Parts with +1 to seven stats at SLOTLESS I'd say it's right in the Ring wheelhouse.


Let's do a more fair comparison.
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2022 Special Token Images 3 years 2 days ago #53

Raven wrote: These all look very cool. Thanks for giving us a sneak peak.

One thing (and I realize it's a nitpick) is that the art on the transmuted Dragonkind orbs seems.... I dunno... not as cool as the art on some of the individual Dragon orbs? I'm not sure exactly what I was expecting... Possibly more colour (like the Supreme Ring or Boots or Kilt?) ... which I recognize upon typing is due to those transmutes being a combination of different elements, where these are just a bunch of red orbs being combined. But it still feels like it needs a bit more *shiny* to it. Either going into metallics for the Orbs, or having rainbow flare behind them.

That's a minor thing tho, and I would be quite happy to have either of these as printed. Just, ya know.... if that art guy had nothing else to do, maybe he could look into it?


I'm with you on this one. I think the art for all the Tokens except the Orbs is outstanding. The Orbs could use a second pass with some additional bling.
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2022 Special Token Images 3 years 2 days ago #54

Dougout wrote: Ring of the Hallowed was an Appreciation Token, was it not? (according to the link you shared) So it is less available than Anointed. Making the combination that much more powerful.


Whoops; edited. Thanks for pointing out my mistake!
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2022 Special Token Images 3 years 2 days ago #55

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Dougout wrote:

Fiddy wrote: If the +2 Turkey Leg and/or Ghost Accelerator are extra transmutes, I suggest the tokens be marked as transmutes (I assume likely 4* or maybe 5*) instead of URs and then be given the appropriate token back as well.


I'm now wondering if it would be something similar to how the FoP: Reaver and FoP: Horror are made.

I'll be shocked if the Ghost Accelerator isn't the end result of the meta recipe. It would explain the five ghost tokens.

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2022 Special Token Images 3 years 2 days ago #56

Ho-Yi Fung wrote:

Dougout wrote: Ring of the Hallowed was an Appreciation Token, was it not? (according to the link you shared) So it is less available than Anointed. Making the combination that much more powerful.


Whoops; edited. Thanks for pointing out my mistake!


I think some also showed up in the treasure mix.

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2022 Special Token Images 3 years 2 days ago #57

Dougout wrote:

Ho-Yi Fung wrote: Charm of the Champion: presumably a volunteer-UR, given that Amulet of the Champion was also a volunteer-UR. Even so, way too powerful -- it combine the effects of two other recent volunteer-UR's, the Greater Onyx Charm and Greater Quicksilver Charm !

Charm of the Hero: same as above, but on the volunteer-rare tier: it combines Onyx Charm with Quicksilver Charm

Ring of the Champion, Ring of the Hero: both are on the strong side, seeing as the only STR boosting ring is the standard-pack-rare Ring of the Hallowed , at +1; and the only DEX boosting ring is the standard-pack-rare Ring of the Anointed , also at +1

Very Basic Greaves, Basic Greaves: love the pun!

Ghost Accelerator: I feel like I rarely get the opportunity to Turn Undead, especially since it's inconsistent whether or not a Cleric can identify if a creature is undead before spending the Standard Action. While this might make incorporeal undead show up more often to justify its existence, I fear it'll go the way of the Gnomish Fizzy Lifting Pack instead and undead (of all sorts) just stop showing up, rendering it (and Turn Undead) [more of] a joke. Well, that, or this will render Turn Undead a joke, if we never see undead swarms.


Ring of the Hallowed was an Appreciation Token, was it not? (according to the link you shared) So it is less available than Anointed. Making the combination that much more powerful.


Replying here just to add +1 to this. Charm of the Champion combines the effects of two previous UR volunteer tokens, each of which are already among the best UR charms in the game and only provide half the effect of the proposed Charm of the Champion. Can I suggest +1 STR, +1 DEX and +1 CON instead?

Charm of the Hero is fine in terms of power level, but as with the UR this combines the effect of two previous volunteer tokens. It's probably OK to leave it as-is though, volunteers can always equip both if they have them and it's currently at a reasonable level of power in general for a volunteer rare.
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2022 Special Token Images 3 years 2 days ago #58

Matthew Hayward wrote: Should the Dragon Orbs transmutes be numbered?


We won't be doing that this time since both will have RFID chips.
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2022 Special Token Images 3 years 2 days ago #59

Thanks all! I went with Elder Orb and Eldest Orb.

I think y'all are going to enjoy the new transmute I have cookin' up!
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2022 Special Token Images 3 years 2 days ago #60

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Jeff Martin wrote: Thanks all! I went with Elder Orb and Eldest Orb.

I think y'all are going to enjoy the new transmute I have cookin' up!

Cookin' up??

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