TOPIC: 2022 Ultra Rare Token Images

Badge of Beading, could we not make a new slot already please? How about
Beaded Greaves UR
Shin Slot
Wearer can equip +1 bead

For the Mystic and Mage staves, I like that INT now gives a to-hit bonus. Are there many tokens that give ranged damage bonuses? I know Focus items wouldn't apply. Would the Human Wizard's wand mastery bonus apply? I assume not.

Miathan wrote:

Arcanist Kolixela wrote:

kurtreznor wrote:

Arcanist Kolixela wrote: PLEASE remember the Belt of the Brave exists.

If you are suggesting a +2/+2 Ranged UR belt when a +2/+2 Melee RARE belt exists that's just bad design.

If it swaps over to Ranged it needs to be better than the existing Rare Melee belt.

We've already nerfed several UR tokens into rare in 2021, let's not go the other direction for 2022

Can we please remove the rarity designations from completion and volunteer tokens. They don't accurately reflect the rarity of these tokens.

Also, belt of the brave is an extreme outlier. If it had gone through token design like a regular set token, it would never have been printed. Please stop using it as an argument for making every belt stronger. It is better than every other melee UR belt, but happens to be red instead of purple or blue.

Not gonna happen.

Definitely should never have been printed. But it was. and it sets the bar for belts a step or two higher because of that.

Doesn't have to be amazing (my suggestion for using it as a starter for a transmute path is +2/+3 Ranged) but it needs to have something above that belt.

This is always a common misconception that the new good token has to become the baseline but really the baseline should never change and development should be a sinusoidal pattern

I'm not sure that holds true in a game where all tokens are always usable.

People just stop buying once they hit top-of-sin tokens in each slot.

Pstyle wrote: Badge of Beading, could we not make a new slot already please? How about
Beaded Greaves UR
Shin Slot
Wearer can equip +1 bead

Already? The last time there was a new slot I can think of was the treasure only Greaves slot. That was a few years back.

Prior to that it was pants, and prior to that it was shirt.

It's probably not a short amount of time since a new slot came up, relative to slod additions in TD history, and I suspect we're overdue if you ignore the shin slot (which doesn't sell tokens).

bpsymington wrote: For the Mystic and Mage staves, I like that INT now gives a to-hit bonus. Are there many tokens that give ranged damage bonuses? I know Focus items wouldn't apply. Would the Human Wizard's wand mastery bonus apply? I assume not.

Plenty

Blessed Wind / Blessed Tempest Gloves
Draco-Lich Charm
A 2021 completion charm
Havoc Rings
Ioun Stone Banshee Prism
The 2022 3 star lenses
etc.

Exbalz wrote:

kurtreznor wrote: Bead of jealous heroism: doesn't really have a drawback. My first thought was that I should get 2 of the relic, just for options. Then I realized that if I don't use slot expanders, and I would only need to loan it to newer players, the upgrade does nothing. So, I guess that's fine, I will still want 2 of this.

Should the Bead of Jealous Heroism eat another slot in addition to only allowing 1 bead, like an Ioun Stone or something so that it has a drawback for those without slot expanders?

I liked the suggestion that Bead of Jealous Heroism doesn't allow Earcuffs. Not a huge loss for a rare only player just getting into level 5 or one that hits 00 on a pack, as Rare and under ear is usually just a small HP loss or a save loss, and going to level 5 gives you HP. It is, however, kind of a big deal when you are locked out of Slot Expander Ears and would give a mid tier UR player a real reason to upgrade.

Exbalz wrote: With regards to Belt of the Fearless and IS Fluorite Sphere, here's a potential solution: Change the belt to missile only and adjust stats accordingly since missile was specifically left off of the IS. Current UR+ missile build belt options are: Viper Strike (2014 token), Orion's (relic level), or Arcane Belt (get less benefit than spell casters), and that's pretty much it.

I agree with moving the belt to missile. If the name to stay the same, I could even see +2 missile hit, +2 missile damage, and immune to fear.

An idea for Badges (Badges? We don't need no stinkin' badges! ):

Make the new "Badge" slot hold 2 badges.

That we we sidestep both the:

"Come on, this is really just slotless" complaints today.

And the:

"Any future UR Badges have to be better than 2 Bead slots, because it's competing with the Bead slot expander UR" discussions of the future.

Then we can slowly build up the power level of the Badge slots 2nd item through all rarities similar to how shirts and boots took several years to get strong stuff in them (other than the Bead granting badge).

We could change the name to something that comes in 2s, the Epaulette slot, pockets slot ?

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Miathan wrote:

Arcanist Kolixela wrote:

kurtreznor wrote:

Arcanist Kolixela wrote: PLEASE remember the Belt of the Brave exists.

If you are suggesting a +2/+2 Ranged UR belt when a +2/+2 Melee RARE belt exists that's just bad design.

If it swaps over to Ranged it needs to be better than the existing Rare Melee belt.

We've already nerfed several UR tokens into rare in 2021, let's not go the other direction for 2022

Can we please remove the rarity designations from completion and volunteer tokens. They don't accurately reflect the rarity of these tokens.

Also, belt of the brave is an extreme outlier. If it had gone through token design like a regular set token, it would never have been printed. Please stop using it as an argument for making every belt stronger. It is better than every other melee UR belt, but happens to be red instead of purple or blue.

Not gonna happen.

Definitely should never have been printed. But it was. and it sets the bar for belts a step or two higher because of that.

Doesn't have to be amazing (my suggestion for using it as a starter for a transmute path is +2/+3 Ranged) but it needs to have something above that belt.

This is always a common misconception that the new good token has to become the baseline but really the baseline should never change and development should be a sinusoidal pattern

I'm not sure that holds true in a game where all tokens are always usable.

People just stop buying once they hit top-of-sin tokens in each slot.

Absolutely it is. Top of the axis dosent always mean damage or hit, it can be good interactions.
With as many slots as TD has it will take quite some time for all top of axis tokens are impossible to make but other wise you just keep moving the base line and the old tokens become bottom of axis and undesirable.

Matthew Hayward wrote: An idea for Badges (Badges? We don't need no stinkin' badges! ):

Make the new "Badge" slot hold 2 badges.

That we we sidestep both the:

"Come on, this is really just slotless" complaints today.

And the:

"Any future UR Badges have to be better than 2 Bead slots, because it's competing with the Bead slot expander UR" discussions of the future.

Then we can slowly build up the power level of the Badge slots 2nd item through all rarities similar to how shirts and boots took several years to get strong stuff in them (other than the Bead granting badge).

We could change the name to something that comes in 2s, the Epaulette slot, pockets slot ?

+1 on the Epaulettes suggestion. Time to find some old 80s dress shirts and start making token holders!

(But also a good point on future development discussions, so kinda sorta actually like the idea)

My thoughts:

+2 Chaos Cannon: Love it
+2 Mug of Battle: feels too similar to previous tokens that aren't all that popular, I'd skip it.
Badge of Beading: I don't love the idea of another new slot at this time.
Bead of Focus: it is plenty powerful as is, I wouldn't add INT or WIS.
Belt of the Fearless: please make this much less powerful.
Butterfly Cloak: I really like this one.
Charm Bracelets: a much-needed reprint (will help token sales)
Charm of Spell Storing: do we need more of these? Just a question.
Earcuff of Orbits: another much-needed reprint (will definitely help token sales)
Harlax's Helpful Lamp: I liked the version with the die roll better.
Ioun Stone Amethyst Orb: I like it
Sniper Spectacles: should be another popular reprint.

Pstyle wrote: Badge of Beading, could we not make a new slot already please? How about
Beaded Greaves UR
Shin Slot
Wearer can equip +1 bead

+1

Does the Badge require a shirt or do you push it in like they do for "The Budweiser" sometimes?

Was Stave intentionally omitted? Or will it be added?

Harlax's Helpful Lamp round up or round down if there is an odd number in the party?

Charm of Spell Storing isn't equipable with Ring of Spell Storing. Since a character gets one Free Action a turn, unless another token breaks this, is there a need to restrict this?

Butterfly Cloaks indicates slain. Is it correct that this does not activate if killed by push damage?