TOPIC: Ultra Rare Token Ideas

David Zych wrote:

Wayne Rhodes wrote: I haven’t read everything on this so I may have missed it, but what about a chart type synergy token for saves.
1 to 5 +2 saves
6 to 9 +3 saves
10 +4 saves

Not being a coach myself I can't speak to how much difficulty this would add in coaching, but I definitely want one for my build!

No worse then anything else. Most people who use tokens like this use the app and have a premade group to take advantage of the synergy.

The worse thing from a coaching time perspective are +/- uncommons. Stuff like +2dex/-1str effects like 5 numbers and they will turn up a lot in parties that have lots of tokens, questions, last second changes and frequently dont have redone stats.

Endgame wrote:

David Zych wrote:

Wayne Rhodes wrote: I haven’t read everything on this so I may have missed it, but what about a chart type synergy token for saves.
1 to 5 +2 saves
6 to 9 +3 saves
10 +4 saves

Not being a coach myself I can't speak to how much difficulty this would add in coaching, but I definitely want one for my build!

On the plus side, the people in coaching probably know how many of them are in the party, and in all likelihood are running an app.

+2 to +4 is probably too high though - probably would need to be +1 to +3

Depending what slot but in the IS slot +1 to saves is a rare wouldn’t really be code effective to spend 6 pyps to get it to +2

Miathan wrote:

Endgame wrote:

David Zych wrote:

Wayne Rhodes wrote: I haven’t read everything on this so I may have missed it, but what about a chart type synergy token for saves.
1 to 5 +2 saves
6 to 9 +3 saves
10 +4 saves

Not being a coach myself I can't speak to how much difficulty this would add in coaching, but I definitely want one for my build!

On the plus side, the people in coaching probably know how many of them are in the party, and in all likelihood are running an app.

+2 to +4 is probably too high though - probably would need to be +1 to +3

Depending what slot but in the IS slot +1 to saves is a rare wouldn’t really be code effective to spend 6 pyps to get it to +2

But +3 for the full 10 is better than UR powerful. I’m not overly worried about the bottom end, more so the the top end.

In Charm slot, questor’s is +1 all saves and a reroll. Brooching can be up to a +4 if you have a legendary or a relic, but is more likely to be a +2 or +3. I think in Charm this would also be good at 1-3.

Put it in wrist and it would be fine at +2 to +4

Endgame wrote:

Miathan wrote:

Endgame wrote:

David Zych wrote:

Wayne Rhodes wrote: I haven’t read everything on this so I may have missed it, but what about a chart type synergy token for saves.
1 to 5 +2 saves
6 to 9 +3 saves
10 +4 saves

Not being a coach myself I can't speak to how much difficulty this would add in coaching, but I definitely want one for my build!

On the plus side, the people in coaching probably know how many of them are in the party, and in all likelihood are running an app.

+2 to +4 is probably too high though - probably would need to be +1 to +3

Depending what slot but in the IS slot +1 to saves is a rare wouldn’t really be code effective to spend 6 pyps to get it to +2

But +3 for the full 10 is better than UR powerful. I’m not overly worried about the bottom end, more so the the top end.

In Charm slot, questor’s is +1 all saves and a reroll. Brooching can be up to a +4 if you have a legendary or a relic, but is more likely to be a +2 or +3. I think in Charm this would also be good at 1-3.

Put it in wrist and it would be fine at +2 to +4

I’m think charm or Ring personally

Wrist you could use charm bracelet, grab questor’s and Broaching with a lucky clock to get to +4
Also I would want a true insensitive to run all 10.

Personally this would not give me problems in coaching.

Draupnir (Ring)

Usable by: All

+1 to STR and CON

May be transmuted for 2,000 GP per years since 2021.

(Draupnir is a mythical Norse golden ring owned by Odin that reproduces 8 copies of itself every 9th night).

Endgame wrote:

Miathan wrote:

Endgame wrote:

David Zych wrote:

Wayne Rhodes wrote: I haven’t read everything on this so I may have missed it, but what about a chart type synergy token for saves.
1 to 5 +2 saves
6 to 9 +3 saves
10 +4 saves

Not being a coach myself I can't speak to how much difficulty this would add in coaching, but I definitely want one for my build!

On the plus side, the people in coaching probably know how many of them are in the party, and in all likelihood are running an app.

+2 to +4 is probably too high though - probably would need to be +1 to +3

Depending what slot but in the IS slot +1 to saves is a rare wouldn’t really be code effective to spend 6 pyps to get it to +2

But +3 for the full 10 is better than UR powerful. I’m not overly worried about the bottom end, more so the the top end.

In Charm slot, questor’s is +1 all saves and a reroll. Brooching can be up to a +4 if you have a legendary or a relic, but is more likely to be a +2 or +3. I think in Charm this would also be good at 1-3.

I'll agree Charm of Brooching is usually +2 or +3 but could be +4.

Since Wayne's proposal is also usually +2 or +3 but could be +4, that doesn't seem out of line to me, particularly given the tradition of honorarily named tokens being a little above the curve.

Helskór (Feet, or called Hel-shoes)

Usable by: All

When you die in a room other than the last room in the dungeon, you may rejoin the party alive with 1 HP in the next room.

(In Norse mythology these are shoes placed on the dead so they may walk to Valhalla).

Mark of the Damned
Slotless
+5 ranged damage
Cannot be healed by spells or potions
Take 5 damage at the start of every room

David Zych wrote: I'll agree Charm of Brooching is usually +2 or +3 but could be +4.

Since Wayne's proposal is also usually +2 or +3 but could be +4, that doesn't seem out of line to me, particularly given the tradition of honorarily named tokens being a little above the curve.

What if it was
1-5 +3 to save of choice
6-9 two saves of choice
10 +3 to all saves

It is similar, kind of, and also different. The top end doesn’t end at 4 like you’re advocating (let’s be honest brooching requires another token to be this good) and to get 4 you have to have a legendary and a relic (I count the relic second only in this case). A +3 for 10 people having one token (people with 10 exist fine ) seems reasonably similar to one person owning three URs to get +3 in the charm slot. (Again this would be Dougals, lucky, and a brooch). The assumption is this is in the ioun or charm slot, to be elsewhere would require a completely different analysis.

Megingjörð (waist)

+5 shock damage to melee attacks

Usable by: Barbarian, Fighters, Paladin

(From Norse Mythology, Thor's power belt reputed to double his strength.)

Endgame wrote: Mark of the Damned
Slotless
+5 ranged damage
Cannot be healed by spells or potions
Take 5 damage at the start of every room

With Pirate theming "The Black Spot"?

Svalinn, the Sunshield (Offhand)

Usable by: Barbarian, Fighters, Paladin

+3 to AC, -5 from Fire 

(In Norse mythology, Svalinn is the shield that protects from the sun).