TOPIC: Rare Token Ideas

Picc wrote:

AAckeret wrote:

Grizwald wrote:

Endgame wrote: If the earlier suggested war drums or pirate concertina don’t strike a chord (hehe) how about:

+1 Singing Sword
1H
D8+1
Bard, Barbarian, Fighters, Paladin, Ranger

Bard may sing bard song and make melee attacks with this weapon

+1
I like this idea.

+1 to this +1

Feels a little to close to tokendb.com/token/widseths-2-dancing-sword/ IMO

Feels a little too close to an item one person in the entire world can use?

Matthew Hayward wrote: I find it frustrating that after TD prints very powerful melee boosting tokens as completion tokens two years in a row, tokens that are arguably at the UR level:

Rare Ioun Stone Jasper Ellipsoid +2 melee damage completion from 2020, that stacks with the same effect of the 2019 UR Ioun Stone Infernal Fire Prism.

Rare Belt of the Brave, +2 to hit and damage in melee completion from 2021, that stacks with any other waist slot item via Hitchiking Ghost: Shog.

People argue that:

a. These effect shouldn't be made available to the general player population, as was done with 2019 completion Boots of Inferno Step giving rise to 2020 Boots of Shocking Step.

b. Argue that similar effects are "too good" for spellcasters. It's clear TD doesn't think these effects are "too good" for melee classes - if they did they wouldn't have printed them.

It's frustrating to constantly be told that your class / play style can't get the same goodies that other classes have in much more abundance, because they would be "too good."

TD is a team game, or so I've heard, I would think on that basis having similar power items for casters to melee users would be a good thing

For what it’s worth, I would support errata to both Jasper ellipsiod and belt of the brave that they both only effect rare weapons.

I am absolutely against the power creep these tokens would represent as in pack rares - the only things keeping them relatively sane is the limited print run as a VTD completion token.

Questor's Charm of Chance (Charm)

Usable by: All

+1 to saves

Endgame wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote: I find it frustrating that after TD prints very powerful melee boosting tokens as completion tokens two years in a row, tokens that are arguably at the UR level:

Rare Ioun Stone Jasper Ellipsoid +2 melee damage completion from 2020, that stacks with the same effect of the 2019 UR Ioun Stone Infernal Fire Prism.

Rare Belt of the Brave, +2 to hit and damage in melee completion from 2021, that stacks with any other waist slot item via Hitchiking Ghost: Shog.

People argue that:

a. These effect shouldn't be made available to the general player population, as was done with 2019 completion Boots of Inferno Step giving rise to 2020 Boots of Shocking Step.

b. Argue that similar effects are "too good" for spellcasters. It's clear TD doesn't think these effects are "too good" for melee classes - if they did they wouldn't have printed them.

It's frustrating to constantly be told that your class / play style can't get the same goodies that other classes have in much more abundance, because they would be "too good."

TD is a team game, or so I've heard, I would think on that basis having similar power items for casters to melee users would be a good thing

For what it’s worth, I would support errata to both Jasper ellipsiod and belt of the brave that they both only effect rare weapons.

I am absolutely against the power creep these tokens would represent as in pack rares - the only things keeping them relatively sane is the limited print run as a VTD completion token.

I'm surprised BotB and ISJE were made, even as completion tokens.
With the exception of Maul of the Titans, Belt of the Brave is objectively better than Girdle of Stone Giant Strength which is a 2018 UR and Belt of Ogre Mage Power a 2019 Exalted and preforms only slightly under Girdle of Frost Giant Strength.

Psychic Stone
Slotless
Increase psychic level by 1

Psychic charm
Charm
Increase psychic level by 1

IS quarts Shard
IS
Increase psychic level by 1

If we are going to have rare psychic enablers, we might as well have some rares that raise psychic level too.

Matthew Hayward wrote: Barnacled Bracer (Wrist)

Usable by: Monk

Damage Wheel: 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8

Damage wheel includes +2 Cold Damage; Criticals on "19-20"

FOB Combatable

Damage type: Slashing

I like the idea of a “barnacled blade”

100 GP Rubber Duck of Salvation +2 save vs. Drowning

Dead Man's Chest 1000gp (Treasure Box Draw)

Captain's Bandolier Turn in 2 ammo per missile attack (Rare)

10' Collapsible Gangplank (Item)

Quarter Master's Pack +1 to Max HP, turn in at coaching (Uncommon)

Hurricane Lantern Provides light 10' area, save vs blown out/extinguish (Item)

Piece of Eight If All party members redeem (10 pieces total) +1 Treasure Draw each (Rare)

Spud

Rare versions of the stat altering UR kilts:

Legs #1: +3 STR, -2 DEX, -2 CON
Legs #2: +3 DEX
Legs #3: +3 CON, -2 DEX

Or something thereabouts over the next 3 years.

Rare versions of UR spell boosters from the last couple of years:

Scholar Shirt: +1 to spell healing, spell and polymorph damage

Scholar Shorts (legs): +1 to spell healing, spell and polymorph damage

Scholar Tome (slotless): +1 to spell healing, spell and polymorph damage

Komodo Eye Ring: +1 to melee, ranged damage

Scholar's Sash (waist): +1 healing spells, +1 to melee and ranged damage

And a spell focused version of Boots of Inferno Step / Boots of Shocking Step.

Snow Shoes (feet)

Usable by: All

+2 Cold melee damage

Matthew Hayward wrote: Rare versions of the stat altering UR kilts:

Legs #1: +3 STR, -2 DEX, -2 CON
Legs #2: +3 DEX
Legs #3: +3 CON, -2 DEX

Or something thereabouts over the next 3 years.

I like the idea of rare kilts over 3 years, do you think it would be worthwhile to have a transmute at the end? Could be a fun way to let people at a different spend level collect something to upgrade. I might go with +2 rather then +3 at rare though.

Picc wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote: Rare versions of the stat altering UR kilts:

Legs #1: +3 STR, -2 DEX, -2 CON
Legs #2: +3 DEX
Legs #3: +3 CON, -2 DEX

Or something thereabouts over the next 3 years.

I like the idea of rare kilts over 3 years, do you think it would be worthwhile to have a transmute at the end? Could be a fun way to let people at a different spend level collect something to upgrade. I might go with +2 rather then +3 at rare though.

Uncommon legs are already +2 /-2. Rare would either need to be +3 / -2 or +2 / -1.

It would be kind of fun to do a 3* that took all 3 and added +1 /+1 /+1