TOPIC: SUPER Final Ultra Rare Images

Arcanist Kolixela wrote:

Endgame wrote:

Arcanist Kolixela wrote:

Fiddy wrote:

Endgame wrote:

Fiddy wrote:

OrionW wrote: I think it was last year that Jeff said he wanted items that allowed new players to have items that allowed new players to feel like they had good equipment choices. I think the armor is is a good place for this. It gives a newish player excited about the fighter legendary path a solid armor token to use.

Lucky Plate will still be available as a PYP. It might be better to wait a year so Lucky Plate is out of print rather than having two heavy UR armors in print at same time.

This is a fair point - what slot hasn’t has a UR this year or last.

Unless my TokenDB-fu is failing me, Hands had no URs in 2019 or 2020, and the ones currently in 2021 are melee focused.

I'm not saying it'd be awesome to reprint Gloves of the Cabal (maybe with a small boost of +2 damage with scrolls), but it'd be awesome to reprint Gloves of the Cabal (maybe with a small boost of +2 damage with scrolls).

Robes. Monk Wizard haven't had an UR since Moonhide.

Robes of the Cabal
+3 Dex
+1 Str
+1 Soell Damage
counts as a piece of the Cabal set


?

Drop the str, make it

+3 AC
+1 damage
Part of cabal set

Very different from moon hide, provides a damage buff to everyone in every form, and get a cabal set item out to start a reprint cycle

Goal was to give the Monk some love in the design.

+3 AC
+1 Str
+1 Spell Damage
Cabal set

The +1 damage was Intended for all modes - melee, Ranged, Spell, just like amulet of shock.

Endgame wrote:

Arcanist Kolixela wrote:

Endgame wrote:

Arcanist Kolixela wrote:

Fiddy wrote:

Endgame wrote:

Fiddy wrote:

OrionW wrote: I think it was last year that Jeff said he wanted items that allowed new players to have items that allowed new players to feel like they had good equipment choices. I think the armor is is a good place for this. It gives a newish player excited about the fighter legendary path a solid armor token to use.

Lucky Plate will still be available as a PYP. It might be better to wait a year so Lucky Plate is out of print rather than having two heavy UR armors in print at same time.

This is a fair point - what slot hasn’t has a UR this year or last.

Unless my TokenDB-fu is failing me, Hands had no URs in 2019 or 2020, and the ones currently in 2021 are melee focused.

I'm not saying it'd be awesome to reprint Gloves of the Cabal (maybe with a small boost of +2 damage with scrolls), but it'd be awesome to reprint Gloves of the Cabal (maybe with a small boost of +2 damage with scrolls).

Robes. Monk Wizard haven't had an UR since Moonhide.

Robes of the Cabal
+3 Dex
+1 Str
+1 Soell Damage
counts as a piece of the Cabal set


?

Drop the str, make it

+3 AC
+1 damage
Part of cabal set

Very different from moon hide, provides a damage buff to everyone in every form, and get a cabal set item out to start a reprint cycle

Goal was to give the Monk some love in the design.

+3 AC
+1 Str
+1 Spell Damage
Cabal set

The +1 damage was Intended for all modes - melee, Ranged, Spell, just like amulet of shock.

Oh. Yeah that works fine then

Arcanist Kolixela wrote:

Endgame wrote:

Arcanist Kolixela wrote:

Endgame wrote:

Arcanist Kolixela wrote:

Fiddy wrote:

Endgame wrote:

Fiddy wrote:

OrionW wrote: I think it was last year that Jeff said he wanted items that allowed new players to have items that allowed new players to feel like they had good equipment choices. I think the armor is is a good place for this. It gives a newish player excited about the fighter legendary path a solid armor token to use.

Lucky Plate will still be available as a PYP. It might be better to wait a year so Lucky Plate is out of print rather than having two heavy UR armors in print at same time.

This is a fair point - what slot hasn’t has a UR this year or last.

Unless my TokenDB-fu is failing me, Hands had no URs in 2019 or 2020, and the ones currently in 2021 are melee focused.

I'm not saying it'd be awesome to reprint Gloves of the Cabal (maybe with a small boost of +2 damage with scrolls), but it'd be awesome to reprint Gloves of the Cabal (maybe with a small boost of +2 damage with scrolls).

Robes. Monk Wizard haven't had an UR since Moonhide.

Robes of the Cabal
+3 Dex
+1 Str
+1 Soell Damage
counts as a piece of the Cabal set


?

Drop the str, make it

+3 AC
+1 damage
Part of cabal set

Very different from moon hide, provides a damage buff to everyone in every form, and get a cabal set item out to start a reprint cycle

Goal was to give the Monk some love in the design.

+3 AC
+1 Str
+1 Spell Damage
Cabal set

The +1 damage was Intended for all modes - melee, Ranged, Spell, just like amulet of shock.

Oh. Yeah that works fine then

Could even be completely crazy and extend that +1 damage to scrolls and wands, but that might be too much, who knows.

Arcanist Kolixela wrote:

Endgame wrote:

Arcanist Kolixela wrote:

Endgame wrote:

Arcanist Kolixela wrote:

Fiddy wrote:

Endgame wrote:

Fiddy wrote:

OrionW wrote: I think it was last year that Jeff said he wanted items that allowed new players to have items that allowed new players to feel like they had good equipment choices. I think the armor is is a good place for this. It gives a newish player excited about the fighter legendary path a solid armor token to use.

Lucky Plate will still be available as a PYP. It might be better to wait a year so Lucky Plate is out of print rather than having two heavy UR armors in print at same time.

This is a fair point - what slot hasn’t has a UR this year or last.

Unless my TokenDB-fu is failing me, Hands had no URs in 2019 or 2020, and the ones currently in 2021 are melee focused.

I'm not saying it'd be awesome to reprint Gloves of the Cabal (maybe with a small boost of +2 damage with scrolls), but it'd be awesome to reprint Gloves of the Cabal (maybe with a small boost of +2 damage with scrolls).

Robes. Monk Wizard haven't had an UR since Moonhide.

Robes of the Cabal
+3 Dex
+1 Str
+1 Soell Damage
counts as a piece of the Cabal set


?

Drop the str, make it

+3 AC
+1 damage
Part of cabal set

Very different from moon hide, provides a damage buff to everyone in every form, and get a cabal set item out to start a reprint cycle

Goal was to give the Monk some love in the design.

+3 AC
+1 Str
+1 Spell Damage
Cabal set

The +1 damage was Intended for all modes - melee, Ranged, Spell, just like amulet of shock.

Oh. Yeah that works fine then

That still looks quite a bit like another Wizard UR.

One nice thing about a Gloves of Flying Fist reprint is that the Earcuff of Orbits was taken out, so this would be adding back in a really high demand, low supply Out of Print UR back into the set.

Assuming no swaps I think it would be cool to palis to be on the dk armor. The most famous death knight I know of was (Soth) was a knight of the rose, aka basically a pali.

Mike Steele wrote:

Arcanist Kolixela wrote:

Endgame wrote:

Arcanist Kolixela wrote:

Endgame wrote:

Arcanist Kolixela wrote:

Fiddy wrote:

Endgame wrote:

Fiddy wrote:

OrionW wrote: I think it was last year that Jeff said he wanted items that allowed new players to have items that allowed new players to feel like they had good equipment choices. I think the armor is is a good place for this. It gives a newish player excited about the fighter legendary path a solid armor token to use.

Lucky Plate will still be available as a PYP. It might be better to wait a year so Lucky Plate is out of print rather than having two heavy UR armors in print at same time.

This is a fair point - what slot hasn’t has a UR this year or last.

Unless my TokenDB-fu is failing me, Hands had no URs in 2019 or 2020, and the ones currently in 2021 are melee focused.

I'm not saying it'd be awesome to reprint Gloves of the Cabal (maybe with a small boost of +2 damage with scrolls), but it'd be awesome to reprint Gloves of the Cabal (maybe with a small boost of +2 damage with scrolls).

Robes. Monk Wizard haven't had an UR since Moonhide.

Robes of the Cabal
+3 Dex
+1 Str
+1 Soell Damage
counts as a piece of the Cabal set


?

Drop the str, make it

+3 AC
+1 damage
Part of cabal set

Very different from moon hide, provides a damage buff to everyone in every form, and get a cabal set item out to start a reprint cycle

Goal was to give the Monk some love in the design.

+3 AC
+1 Str
+1 Spell Damage
Cabal set

The +1 damage was Intended for all modes - melee, Ranged, Spell, just like amulet of shock.

Oh. Yeah that works fine then

That still looks quite a bit like another Wizard UR.

One nice thing about a Gloves of Flying Fist reprint is that the Earcuff of Orbits was taken out, so this would be adding back in a really high demand, low supply Out of Print UR back into the set.

Gang... just want to point out that Monks already have an awesome UR Glove option in the 2021 set. They also have some other great stat boosters in the 2021 set.

Also, if you're designing an entirely new Cabal item, remember that they have all started off a bit weak when only one party member is wearing them, becomes "ok" with 3, and "good" with 5 party members equipping.

Moving things to a different slot also means you complicate coordinating with existing Cabal users.

Fiddy wrote:

Mike Steele wrote:

Arcanist Kolixela wrote:

Endgame wrote:

Arcanist Kolixela wrote:

Endgame wrote:

Arcanist Kolixela wrote:

Fiddy wrote:

Endgame wrote:

Fiddy wrote:

OrionW wrote: I think it was last year that Jeff said he wanted items that allowed new players to have items that allowed new players to feel like they had good equipment choices. I think the armor is is a good place for this. It gives a newish player excited about the fighter legendary path a solid armor token to use.

Lucky Plate will still be available as a PYP. It might be better to wait a year so Lucky Plate is out of print rather than having two heavy UR armors in print at same time.

This is a fair point - what slot hasn’t has a UR this year or last.

Unless my TokenDB-fu is failing me, Hands had no URs in 2019 or 2020, and the ones currently in 2021 are melee focused.

I'm not saying it'd be awesome to reprint Gloves of the Cabal (maybe with a small boost of +2 damage with scrolls), but it'd be awesome to reprint Gloves of the Cabal (maybe with a small boost of +2 damage with scrolls).

Robes. Monk Wizard haven't had an UR since Moonhide.

Robes of the Cabal
+3 Dex
+1 Str
+1 Soell Damage
counts as a piece of the Cabal set


?

Drop the str, make it

+3 AC
+1 damage
Part of cabal set

Very different from moon hide, provides a damage buff to everyone in every form, and get a cabal set item out to start a reprint cycle

Goal was to give the Monk some love in the design.

+3 AC
+1 Str
+1 Spell Damage
Cabal set

The +1 damage was Intended for all modes - melee, Ranged, Spell, just like amulet of shock.

Oh. Yeah that works fine then

That still looks quite a bit like another Wizard UR.

One nice thing about a Gloves of Flying Fist reprint is that the Earcuff of Orbits was taken out, so this would be adding back in a really high demand, low supply Out of Print UR back into the set.

Gang... just want to point out that Monks already have an awesome UR Glove option in the 2021 set. They also have some other great stat boosters in the 2021 set.

Also, if you're designing an entirely new Cabal item, remember that they have all started off a bit weak when only one party member is wearing them, becomes "ok" with 3, and "good" with 5 party members equipping.

Moving things to a different slot also means you complicate coordinating with existing Cabal users.

All good points. Leave the Death plate in since we are in the 11th hour.

Fiddy wrote:
Unless my TokenDB-fu is failing me, Hands had no URs in 2019 or 2020, and the ones currently in 2021 are melee focused.

I'm not saying it'd be awesome to reprint Gloves of the Cabal (maybe with a small boost of +2 damage with scrolls), but it'd be awesome to reprint Gloves of the Cabal (maybe with a small boost of +2 damage with scrolls).

+1

Mike Steele wrote: There are a lot of Wizard tokens in this set already. Gloves of Flying Fist would be a great reprint instead of the armor this year, there isn't a lot for the Monk this year as is.

I think Ring of the Drake and the Monk Class relic cover this area pretty well

When making last minute rushed changes I say go all in and give monks a reprint of:

Bracer of Quivering Palm

Why stop at half measures?

Just for fun since there are 2 nightshade items now, what about giving them a non ingame set bonus of "Membership in the rogues guild" since the original Nightshade's has such an RP heavy token db entry.

Cranston's Hat - Wording, replace "Eyes" with "Eye".

MEC - Remove "it" in the last sentence. Should read "...you also gain Mage Power to cast as a Free Action"

Ring of Expertise - "but it can't be modified to Free Action by other item" can be cleaned up by saying "must be cast as a Standard Action"

I agree on holding back the Earcuffs, the new armor is cool a little OP but nice. Were Death Knights Ballerina's in life? The art is for the token is....interesting....

I see a lot of UR's I want this year, very happy with the selection.