TOPIC: SUPER Final Ultra Rare Images

Jeff Martin wrote: How does this look? I took out the references to Mage Power -- since it is just confusing. We can explain the Mage Power thing in the TDB with the Relic and Legendary listings.

This is clear to me. And if the intent is for other items to add the ability to channel more times but not gain the free action ability, OR to add other options than free action without another instance of channel, this is the way to go.
If these are intended to be tied together in all cases, then one of the suggestions that use a semi-colon to separate or a run-on sentence with commas is best to indicate they are not separate abilities.

Jeff Martin wrote: How does this look? I took out the references to Mage Power -- since it is just confusing. We can explain the Mage Power thing in the TDB with the Relic and Legendary listings.

I read as it two separate powers that are activate independently of one another now. The first is once per round. The second is once per room You spend 1+ on the first. Then you spend 15+ to active the second. The 1+ does not count towards the 15+ and the 15+ does not count towards the 1+.

Also can both of these independent powers be used on the same spell? Same turn?

Aeroneus Martellus wrote:

Leitz wrote:

Mike Steele wrote:

Mike Steele wrote:

Mike Steele wrote: Jeff, if the once per room restriction applies to all of MEC abilities (not just the FA portion), maybe rephrase this way for clarity:

Mage Power: For every 1 HP you channel into a spell, gain 1 pt of dmg to a dmg spell being cast. If 15+ HP is being spent, you also cast it as a Free Action. (1/Room)

Also for clarity, on the Transmuted tokens you could just refer to it as MEC Mage Power, not MEC FA Mage Power, because it won't be FA if less than 15 points HP is spent on it.

Jeff, how about this wording, edited from above: For every 1 HP you channel into a spell, gain 1 pt of dmg to a dmg spell being cast, and cast as Free Action if 15+ HP is spent. (1/Room)

Taking a shot at merging Matthew's and mine:

For every 1 HP you channel into a damage spell gain 1 pt of damage, and cast as Free Action if 15+ HP is spent. (1/Room)

This is way better.

Agreed - this seems like the most concise/clear that I've read.

I like this, would just add a may.

For every 1 HP you channel into a damage spell gain 1 pt of damage, and may cast as Free Action if 15+ HP is spent. (1/Room)

This might be what is trying to be expressed:

Once per room you can channel hp(s) on a one for one basis into damage for a damage spell. If you spend more than 14 hps in this way you can also cast that spell as a free action.

Phil Norton wrote:

Aeroneus Martellus wrote:

Leitz wrote:

Mike Steele wrote:

Mike Steele wrote:

Mike Steele wrote: Jeff, if the once per room restriction applies to all of MEC abilities (not just the FA portion), maybe rephrase this way for clarity:

Mage Power: For every 1 HP you channel into a spell, gain 1 pt of dmg to a dmg spell being cast. If 15+ HP is being spent, you also cast it as a Free Action. (1/Room)

Also for clarity, on the Transmuted tokens you could just refer to it as MEC Mage Power, not MEC FA Mage Power, because it won't be FA if less than 15 points HP is spent on it.

Jeff, how about this wording, edited from above: For every 1 HP you channel into a spell, gain 1 pt of dmg to a dmg spell being cast, and cast as Free Action if 15+ HP is spent. (1/Room)

Taking a shot at merging Matthew's and mine:

For every 1 HP you channel into a damage spell gain 1 pt of damage, and cast as Free Action if 15+ HP is spent. (1/Room)

This is way better.

Agreed - this seems like the most concise/clear that I've read.

I like this, would just add a may.

For every 1 HP you channel into a damage spell gain 1 pt of damage, and may cast as Free Action if 15+ HP is spent. (1/Room)

Agreed, I added that to my post but I don't think it was noticed.

edwin wrote:

Jeff Martin wrote: How does this look? I took out the references to Mage Power -- since it is just confusing. We can explain the Mage Power thing in the TDB with the Relic and Legendary listings.

I read as it two separate powers that are activate independently of one another now. The first is once per round. The second is once per room You spend 1+ on the first. Then you spend 15+ to active the second. The 1+ does not count towards the 15+ and the 15+ does not count towards the 1+.

Also can both of these independent powers be used on the same spell? Same turn?

Edwin, how do you read the first sentence as once per round? It says 1/room after both sentences.

I blame Graven. Cost me an hour! The Boots and Gloves are being re-named as below. These should be fun.

Set Bonus: Deals 4 pts of damage to any monster that hits wearer in melee

Mike Steele wrote:

edwin wrote:

Jeff Martin wrote: How does this look? I took out the references to Mage Power -- since it is just confusing. We can explain the Mage Power thing in the TDB with the Relic and Legendary listings.

I read as it two separate powers that are activate independently of one another now. The first is once per round. The second is once per room You spend 1+ on the first. Then you spend 15+ to active the second. The 1+ does not count towards the 15+ and the 15+ does not count towards the 1+.

Also can both of these independent powers be used on the same spell? Same turn?

Edwin, how do you read the first sentence as once per round? It says 1/room after both sentences.

This confusion is why it's probably ideal to only have (1/room) in there once. Either through your merged version or my semi-colon or some other similar phrasing.

For every 1 HP you channel into a damage spell gain 1 pt of damage, and cast as Free Action if 15+ HP is spent (1/Room)

For every 1 hp you channel into a damage spell, gain 1 pt of damage; if at least 15 hp is channeled, you may choose to cast the spell as a Free Action (1/room)


Edwin-do these versions make it clearer that there is only one use of any power (convert HP to damage, if more than 15, the spell is FA) off the token per room? I don't want you to think I'm singling you out, you're just the person who most recently expressed some confusion.

Jeff Martin wrote: I blame Graven. Cost me an hour! The Boots and Gloves are being re-named as below. These should be fun.

Set Bonus: Deals 4 pts of damage to any monster that hits wearer in melee

Great set, well worth the hour!

Jeff Martin wrote: I blame Graven. Cost me an hour! The Boots and Gloves are being re-named as below. These should be fun.

Set Bonus: Deals 4 pts of damage to any monster that hits wearer in melee

2 or 3 piece set bonus?

Jeff Martin wrote: I blame Graven. Cost me an hour! The Boots and Gloves are being re-named as below. These should be fun.

Set Bonus: Deals 4 pts of damage to any monster that hits wearer in melee

Them's some fancy duds. Going to be a stylish year for Fighters!

Jeff Martin wrote: I blame Graven. Cost me an hour! The Boots and Gloves are being re-named as below. These should be fun.

Set Bonus: Deals 4 pts of damage to any monster that hits wearer in melee

MU-HA-HA-HA!!!!

I love it, great graphics!! The armor got sexier with the darker power background!