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FINAL 2021 Ultra Rare Token Images! 3 years 10 months ago #145

Endgame wrote:

Lequinian wrote:

Guedoji wrote:

Endgame wrote:

Iross wrote:

Guedoji wrote:

SnakeEyes (Eric) wrote: Indeed. Thanks for bringing that up, Mike. I see a lot of +1's for Endgame's comment to move the reprint of Earcuff of Orbits to 2022.


I didn't know we were counting. I say -1 for waiting another year.


-2, there were loads of posts on the forums asking for an Earcuff of Orbits reprint this year. Not to mention that there are two extremely desirable new Ioun Stones in the 2021 set, increasing the need for Orbits this year even further.

Can you not use Orion or arcane Bracelets? You can’t use all 3 and get maximum benefits due to the Ioun cap, FYI


Nope


Nope++

What the heck do you guys play? I’ve got rangers, monks, wizards, and clerics on arcane bracelets, and fighters on Orion’s Belt.


The Orion's belt is around ~$350, Rogues can't really use the Arcane Bracelets. I have a free ear slot that is simply used for Earcuff of the wind.

It doesn't really matter what builds we have. I'd like a Earcuff of Orbits, the price is high right now, it will drop below $100 making it attainable. Not everyone is going to dump the kind of money you are talking about into their build. We've already seen plenty of people who do want it. We don't need to prove we need it to get it, its already on this list.
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FINAL 2021 Ultra Rare Token Images! 3 years 10 months ago #146

Guedoji wrote:

Endgame wrote:

Lequinian wrote:

Guedoji wrote:

Endgame wrote:

Iross wrote:

Guedoji wrote:

SnakeEyes (Eric) wrote: Indeed. Thanks for bringing that up, Mike. I see a lot of +1's for Endgame's comment to move the reprint of Earcuff of Orbits to 2022.


I didn't know we were counting. I say -1 for waiting another year.


-2, there were loads of posts on the forums asking for an Earcuff of Orbits reprint this year. Not to mention that there are two extremely desirable new Ioun Stones in the 2021 set, increasing the need for Orbits this year even further.

Can you not use Orion or arcane Bracelets? You can’t use all 3 and get maximum benefits due to the Ioun cap, FYI


Nope


Nope++

What the heck do you guys play? I’ve got rangers, monks, wizards, and clerics on arcane bracelets, and fighters on Orion’s Belt.


The Orion's belt is around ~$350, Rogues can't really use the Arcane Bracelets. I have a free ear slot that is simply used for Earcuff of the wind.

It doesn't really matter what builds we have. I'd like a Earcuff of Orbits, the price is high right now. It will not be when this is printed. Not everyone is going to dump the kind of money you are talking about into their build. We've already seen plenty of people who do want it. We don't need to prove we need it to get it, its already on this list.

And then in 4 years (2025 tokens), when the next batch of players is looking for IS expanders, we will say - Oh, much too soon for reprints. We decided to have them all at once, so check back in, in another 3-4 years (2028-2029).

If they are spread out, we have less of a gap in time between some IS expander being available somewhere.
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FINAL 2021 Ultra Rare Token Images! 3 years 10 months ago #147

Endgame wrote:

Guedoji wrote:

Endgame wrote:

Lequinian wrote:

Guedoji wrote:

Endgame wrote:

Iross wrote:

Guedoji wrote:

SnakeEyes (Eric) wrote: Indeed. Thanks for bringing that up, Mike. I see a lot of +1's for Endgame's comment to move the reprint of Earcuff of Orbits to 2022.


I didn't know we were counting. I say -1 for waiting another year.


-2, there were loads of posts on the forums asking for an Earcuff of Orbits reprint this year. Not to mention that there are two extremely desirable new Ioun Stones in the 2021 set, increasing the need for Orbits this year even further.

Can you not use Orion or arcane Bracelets? You can’t use all 3 and get maximum benefits due to the Ioun cap, FYI


Nope


Nope++

What the heck do you guys play? I’ve got rangers, monks, wizards, and clerics on arcane bracelets, and fighters on Orion’s Belt.


The Orion's belt is around ~$350, Rogues can't really use the Arcane Bracelets. I have a free ear slot that is simply used for Earcuff of the wind.

It doesn't really matter what builds we have. I'd like a Earcuff of Orbits, the price is high right now. It will not be when this is printed. Not everyone is going to dump the kind of money you are talking about into their build. We've already seen plenty of people who do want it. We don't need to prove we need it to get it, its already on this list.

And then in 4 years (2025 tokens), when the next batch of players is looking for IS expanders, we will say - Oh, much too soon for reprints. We decided to have them all at once, so check back in, in another 3-4 years (2028-2029).

If they are spread out, we have less of a gap in time between some IS expander being available somewhere.


You might say that. I sure wont say that. I'll say, heck yeah lets print those bad boys for the newbies!
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FINAL 2021 Ultra Rare Token Images! 3 years 10 months ago #148

Endgame wrote:

Guedoji wrote:

Endgame wrote:

Lequinian wrote:

Guedoji wrote:

Endgame wrote:

Iross wrote:

Guedoji wrote:

SnakeEyes (Eric) wrote: Indeed. Thanks for bringing that up, Mike. I see a lot of +1's for Endgame's comment to move the reprint of Earcuff of Orbits to 2022.


I didn't know we were counting. I say -1 for waiting another year.


-2, there were loads of posts on the forums asking for an Earcuff of Orbits reprint this year. Not to mention that there are two extremely desirable new Ioun Stones in the 2021 set, increasing the need for Orbits this year even further.

Can you not use Orion or arcane Bracelets? You can’t use all 3 and get maximum benefits due to the Ioun cap, FYI


Nope


Nope++

What the heck do you guys play? I’ve got rangers, monks, wizards, and clerics on arcane bracelets, and fighters on Orion’s Belt.


The Orion's belt is around ~$350, Rogues can't really use the Arcane Bracelets. I have a free ear slot that is simply used for Earcuff of the wind.

It doesn't really matter what builds we have. I'd like a Earcuff of Orbits, the price is high right now. It will not be when this is printed. Not everyone is going to dump the kind of money you are talking about into their build. We've already seen plenty of people who do want it. We don't need to prove we need it to get it, its already on this list.

And then in 4 years (2025 tokens), when the next batch of players is looking for IS expanders, we will say - Oh, much too soon for reprints. We decided to have them all at once, so check back in, in another 3-4 years (2028-2029).

If they are spread out, we have less of a gap in time between some IS expander being available somewhere.


or they just reprint expanders again in 3-4 years.
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FINAL 2021 Ultra Rare Token Images! 3 years 10 months ago #149

Given recent history, wouldn't it be more likely to say "Do we really need two more slot expanders after having multiple slot expanders only two years ago?"

What makes anyone think more slot expanders won't be made? I just dread the day when you get things like an earcuff expander or a wrist expander and then have a chain reaction of expansion. Plenty of opportunity to shirt expand, pants expand, feet expand, or whatever in less than five years.
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FINAL 2021 Ultra Rare Token Images! 3 years 10 months ago #150

Guedoji wrote:

Endgame wrote:

Guedoji wrote:

Endgame wrote:

Lequinian wrote:

Guedoji wrote:

Endgame wrote:

Iross wrote:

Guedoji wrote:

SnakeEyes (Eric) wrote: Indeed. Thanks for bringing that up, Mike. I see a lot of +1's for Endgame's comment to move the reprint of Earcuff of Orbits to 2022.


I didn't know we were counting. I say -1 for waiting another year.


-2, there were loads of posts on the forums asking for an Earcuff of Orbits reprint this year. Not to mention that there are two extremely desirable new Ioun Stones in the 2021 set, increasing the need for Orbits this year even further.

Can you not use Orion or arcane Bracelets? You can’t use all 3 and get maximum benefits due to the Ioun cap, FYI


Nope


Nope++

What the heck do you guys play? I’ve got rangers, monks, wizards, and clerics on arcane bracelets, and fighters on Orion’s Belt.


The Orion's belt is around ~$350, Rogues can't really use the Arcane Bracelets. I have a free ear slot that is simply used for Earcuff of the wind.

It doesn't really matter what builds we have. I'd like a Earcuff of Orbits, the price is high right now. It will not be when this is printed. Not everyone is going to dump the kind of money you are talking about into their build. We've already seen plenty of people who do want it. We don't need to prove we need it to get it, its already on this list.

And then in 4 years (2025 tokens), when the next batch of players is looking for IS expanders, we will say - Oh, much too soon for reprints. We decided to have them all at once, so check back in, in another 3-4 years (2028-2029).

If they are spread out, we have less of a gap in time between some IS expander being available somewhere.


You might say that. I sure wont say that.

Its just the way these things work out. 14 years for some kind of nightshade reprint, 11 years for mithral gauntlets, and 11 years for Staff of Power (and it isn't even a reprint). Put Orbits in this set, when there are already available IS expands, and we might not see another IS expander reprint again till 2030 or later.
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FINAL 2021 Ultra Rare Token Images! 3 years 10 months ago #151

The way I read Jeff's comment was that dual wielding Rangers and Monks couldn't benefit from the charm since they each have two melee weapons.
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FINAL 2021 Ultra Rare Token Images! 3 years 10 months ago #152

Also, there's significantly more people playing/buying now than even 5 years ago, correct? So, who's to say that current slot expanders won't go the way of 90s foil cover, alternate art issue #1's? That is, people buy a bunch to speculate, only to have them maintain purchase price rather than increase to the cost of a relic.
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FINAL 2021 Ultra Rare Token Images! 3 years 10 months ago #153

Endgame wrote:

Guedoji wrote:

Endgame wrote:

Guedoji wrote:

Endgame wrote:

Lequinian wrote:

Guedoji wrote:

Endgame wrote:

Iross wrote:

Guedoji wrote:

SnakeEyes (Eric) wrote: Indeed. Thanks for bringing that up, Mike. I see a lot of +1's for Endgame's comment to move the reprint of Earcuff of Orbits to 2022.


I didn't know we were counting. I say -1 for waiting another year.


-2, there were loads of posts on the forums asking for an Earcuff of Orbits reprint this year. Not to mention that there are two extremely desirable new Ioun Stones in the 2021 set, increasing the need for Orbits this year even further.

Can you not use Orion or arcane Bracelets? You can’t use all 3 and get maximum benefits due to the Ioun cap, FYI


Nope


Nope++

What the heck do you guys play? I’ve got rangers, monks, wizards, and clerics on arcane bracelets, and fighters on Orion’s Belt.


The Orion's belt is around ~$350, Rogues can't really use the Arcane Bracelets. I have a free ear slot that is simply used for Earcuff of the wind.

It doesn't really matter what builds we have. I'd like a Earcuff of Orbits, the price is high right now. It will not be when this is printed. Not everyone is going to dump the kind of money you are talking about into their build. We've already seen plenty of people who do want it. We don't need to prove we need it to get it, its already on this list.

And then in 4 years (2025 tokens), when the next batch of players is looking for IS expanders, we will say - Oh, much too soon for reprints. We decided to have them all at once, so check back in, in another 3-4 years (2028-2029).

If they are spread out, we have less of a gap in time between some IS expander being available somewhere.


You might say that. I sure wont say that.

Its just the way these things work out. 14 years for some kind of nightshade reprint, 11 years for mithral gauntlets, and 11 years for Staff of Power (and it isn't even a reprint). Put Orbits in this set, when there are already available IS expands, and we might not see another IS expander reprint again till 2030 or later.


I hate to be a downer.. TD may not exist in 2030, or even 5 years... atleast as we know it today. We might not be going to conventions for a while, or VTD may be the new thing, or classes may be completely redone to make it more sustainable. I understand wanting to think ahead, in many cases you have really good points and I think you are really helping make sure things stay balanced. But right now, this is a good distraction, and its one more token for many of use to give TD money. I'm going beyond my normal budget this year because I want to see this game succeed. So yes, I see what your saying, but nothing is stopping us from just releasing it again in a few years if we see demand for it. Its not hurting anything right now.
Please check out my trade post located here!
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FINAL 2021 Ultra Rare Token Images! 3 years 10 months ago #154

What I am seeing is treasure enhancers (ioun stones), eldritch (kilts)/arcane (shirt of oaf) pieces tend to fall into the speculation space.
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FINAL 2021 Ultra Rare Token Images! 3 years 10 months ago #155

Guedoji wrote:

Endgame wrote:

Guedoji wrote:

Endgame wrote:

Guedoji wrote:

Endgame wrote:

Lequinian wrote:

Guedoji wrote:

Endgame wrote:

Iross wrote:

Guedoji wrote:

SnakeEyes (Eric) wrote: Indeed. Thanks for bringing that up, Mike. I see a lot of +1's for Endgame's comment to move the reprint of Earcuff of Orbits to 2022.


I didn't know we were counting. I say -1 for waiting another year.


-2, there were loads of posts on the forums asking for an Earcuff of Orbits reprint this year. Not to mention that there are two extremely desirable new Ioun Stones in the 2021 set, increasing the need for Orbits this year even further.

Can you not use Orion or arcane Bracelets? You can’t use all 3 and get maximum benefits due to the Ioun cap, FYI


Nope


Nope++

What the heck do you guys play? I’ve got rangers, monks, wizards, and clerics on arcane bracelets, and fighters on Orion’s Belt.


The Orion's belt is around ~$350, Rogues can't really use the Arcane Bracelets. I have a free ear slot that is simply used for Earcuff of the wind.

It doesn't really matter what builds we have. I'd like a Earcuff of Orbits, the price is high right now. It will not be when this is printed. Not everyone is going to dump the kind of money you are talking about into their build. We've already seen plenty of people who do want it. We don't need to prove we need it to get it, its already on this list.

And then in 4 years (2025 tokens), when the next batch of players is looking for IS expanders, we will say - Oh, much too soon for reprints. We decided to have them all at once, so check back in, in another 3-4 years (2028-2029).

If they are spread out, we have less of a gap in time between some IS expander being available somewhere.


You might say that. I sure wont say that.

Its just the way these things work out. 14 years for some kind of nightshade reprint, 11 years for mithral gauntlets, and 11 years for Staff of Power (and it isn't even a reprint). Put Orbits in this set, when there are already available IS expands, and we might not see another IS expander reprint again till 2030 or later.


I hate to be a downer.. TD may not exist in 2030, or even 5 years... atleast as we know it today. We might not be going to conventions for a while, or VTD may be the new thing, or classes may be completely redone to make it more sustainable. I understand wanting to think ahead, in many cases you have really good points and I think you are really helping make sure things stay balanced. But right now, this is a good distraction, and its one more token for many of use to give TD money. I'm going beyond my normal budget this year because I want to see this game succeed. So yes, I see what your saying, but nothing is stopping us from just releasing it again in a few years if we see demand for it. Its not hurting anything right now.

I would love to test this with the ring of spell storing. It's pretty much a cornerstone ring for UR spell casters, last printed in 2016 (available in 2017), and its already nearly relic price and tough to track down. If you're right, we should be able to see it reprinted next year because the demand is there. I'm not hopeful we'll see it, but maybe the popular stuff can buck the trend.
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FINAL 2021 Ultra Rare Token Images! 3 years 10 months ago #156

Even when RoSS was in print, it was very difficult to find. I think it remains my only $250 order. Needed it to craft Dru's (another factor that sucked up some of the supply).
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