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FINAL 2021 Ultra Rare Token Images! 3 years 10 months ago #133

Lequinian wrote:

Guedoji wrote:

Endgame wrote:

Iross wrote:

Guedoji wrote:

SnakeEyes (Eric) wrote: Indeed. Thanks for bringing that up, Mike. I see a lot of +1's for Endgame's comment to move the reprint of Earcuff of Orbits to 2022.


I didn't know we were counting. I say -1 for waiting another year.


-2, there were loads of posts on the forums asking for an Earcuff of Orbits reprint this year. Not to mention that there are two extremely desirable new Ioun Stones in the 2021 set, increasing the need for Orbits this year even further.

Can you not use Orion or arcane Bracelets? You can’t use all 3 and get maximum benefits due to the Ioun cap, FYI


Nope


Nope++

What the heck do you guys play? I’ve got rangers, monks, wizards, and clerics on arcane bracelets, and fighters on Orion’s Belt.
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FINAL 2021 Ultra Rare Token Images! 3 years 10 months ago #134

Well, playing Rogue means that the wrist slot pretty much has to be Bracers of Guided Strike, so that means I can't use Arcane Bracelets. Orion's Belt is an option, but there are four different belts which can be argued as BiS for Rogues (Orion's, Arcane, Viper Strike, Fire Giant Strength).
I play Rogue. Occasionally I even play Rogue well.

Current Rogue Build
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FINAL 2021 Ultra Rare Token Images! 3 years 10 months ago #135

SnakeEyes (Eric) wrote: What if we replace it with...
Charm (or Ioun Stone) of Bonding
+1 to hit and +1 dmg to Melee & Missle attacks if you carry only 1 Melee & 1 Missle weapon

Ioun stones are a more contested slot for my single sliding Fighter-type builds at this point but not sure if that's the same for everyone who would be using this.


I believe the reason that Jeff shelved this token for now was that the original idea was that you Bonded with the weapon you carried into the dungeon and could not swap it out. You could swap between melee and ranged, but not from a Staff of Power to a Staff of Focus. Hence the name "Charm of Bonding".

I think he either couldn't figure out a good way to word this effect, or he figured out some other problem with that design.
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FINAL 2021 Ultra Rare Token Images! 3 years 10 months ago #136

Endgame wrote:

Lequinian wrote:

Guedoji wrote:

Endgame wrote:

Iross wrote:

Guedoji wrote:

SnakeEyes (Eric) wrote: Indeed. Thanks for bringing that up, Mike. I see a lot of +1's for Endgame's comment to move the reprint of Earcuff of Orbits to 2022.


I didn't know we were counting. I say -1 for waiting another year.


-2, there were loads of posts on the forums asking for an Earcuff of Orbits reprint this year. Not to mention that there are two extremely desirable new Ioun Stones in the 2021 set, increasing the need for Orbits this year even further.

Can you not use Orion or arcane Bracelets? You can’t use all 3 and get maximum benefits due to the Ioun cap, FYI


Nope


Nope++

What the heck do you guys play? I’ve got rangers, monks, wizards, and clerics on arcane bracelets, and fighters on Orion’s Belt.


I think the quality of the Ioun stones in a player's collection heavily influences how strong the expanders feel. Only with the pending release of the Jasper tokens have I considered equipping Orion's.

Ear just has less opportunity cost.... Especially at the red level.
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FINAL 2021 Ultra Rare Token Images! 3 years 10 months ago #137

Endgame wrote:

Lequinian wrote:

Guedoji wrote:

Endgame wrote:

Iross wrote:

Guedoji wrote:

SnakeEyes (Eric) wrote: Indeed. Thanks for bringing that up, Mike. I see a lot of +1's for Endgame's comment to move the reprint of Earcuff of Orbits to 2022.


I didn't know we were counting. I say -1 for waiting another year.


-2, there were loads of posts on the forums asking for an Earcuff of Orbits reprint this year. Not to mention that there are two extremely desirable new Ioun Stones in the 2021 set, increasing the need for Orbits this year even further.

Can you not use Orion or arcane Bracelets? You can’t use all 3 and get maximum benefits due to the Ioun cap, FYI


Nope


Nope++

What the heck do you guys play? I’ve got rangers, monks, wizards, and clerics on arcane bracelets, and fighters on Orion’s Belt.


Here's my personal calculation, with not currently owning an extensive collection of volunteer tokens:
OB at 4x the cost of a PYP
$300 to replace a 4* Belt of Ogre Mage Power with the equivalent in charms/stones
For a net gain of 1 Ioun Stone slot

vs.
1 PYP for +2 ioun stones, -2HP (Earcuff of Vitality)

YMMV.
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FINAL 2021 Ultra Rare Token Images! 3 years 10 months ago #138

Iross wrote: Well, playing Rogue means that the wrist slot pretty much has to be Bracers of Guided Strike, so that means I can't use Arcane Bracelets. Orion's Belt is an option, but there are four different belts which can be argued as BiS for Rogues (Orion's, Arcane, Viper Strike, Fire Giant Strength).



Uhhhhh surtrs def > arcane

:cheer:
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FINAL 2021 Ultra Rare Token Images! 3 years 10 months ago #139

Milambus (Jake) wrote:

SnakeEyes (Eric) wrote: What if we replace it with...
Charm (or Ioun Stone) of Bonding
+1 to hit and +1 dmg to Melee & Missle attacks if you carry only 1 Melee & 1 Missle weapon

Ioun stones are a more contested slot for my single sliding Fighter-type builds at this point but not sure if that's the same for everyone who would be using this.


I believe the reason that Jeff shelved this token for now was that the original idea was that you Bonded with the weapon you carried into the dungeon and could not swap it out. You could swap between melee and ranged, but not from a Staff of Power to a Staff of Focus. Hence the name "Charm of Bonding".

I think he either couldn't figure out a good way to word this effect, or he figured out some other problem with that design.


I hear you, Jake. Weapon bonding is probably a bigger idea for a bigger token at a higher level and more abilities. Still, I like the idea for a small UR boost for single sliders. Paladins would particulalry benefit from this.

That said, moving Orbits to next year sounds like a wise move in the grand scheme of tokens as we veterans will have picked up all the slot expanders at a much lower cost than new players will be able to over the next five years. And that will only widen the divide between veterans and new players who want to catch-up.
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FINAL 2021 Ultra Rare Token Images! 3 years 10 months ago #140

Arnold wrote:

Iross wrote: Well, playing Rogue means that the wrist slot pretty much has to be Bracers of Guided Strike, so that means I can't use Arcane Bracelets. Orion's Belt is an option, but there are four different belts which can be argued as BiS for Rogues (Orion's, Arcane, Viper Strike, Fire Giant Strength).



Uhhhhh surtrs def > arcane

:cheer:


Assassin's Crossbow build-only for Arcane, definitely not in the melee builds :cheer:
I play Rogue. Occasionally I even play Rogue well.

Current Rogue Build
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FINAL 2021 Ultra Rare Token Images! 3 years 10 months ago #141

Iross wrote:

Arnold wrote:

Iross wrote: Well, playing Rogue means that the wrist slot pretty much has to be Bracers of Guided Strike, so that means I can't use Arcane Bracelets. Orion's Belt is an option, but there are four different belts which can be argued as BiS for Rogues (Orion's, Arcane, Viper Strike, Fire Giant Strength).



Uhhhhh surtrs def > arcane

:cheer:


Assassin's Crossbow build-only for Arcane, definitely not in the melee builds :cheer:


Ahhhh, touche!
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FINAL 2021 Ultra Rare Token Images! 3 years 10 months ago #142

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I also agree with pushing orbits out a year and I want it reprinted but I also dont want a several year gap where nee players dont have access to an expander but it only matters so much with the cap in place.
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FINAL 2021 Ultra Rare Token Images! 3 years 10 months ago #143

Should there be a damage type specified for Psyferre's light beam?
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FINAL 2021 Ultra Rare Token Images! 3 years 10 months ago #144

Greg wrote: Should there be a damage type specified for Psyferre's light beam?


I read it as being light beam damage.
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