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2021 Fighter Relic/Legendary Almost Final! 1 year 11 months ago #25

I am happy to see crit range back on the item as it directly helps the core of the class in TD (sliding tokens!).

Power attack seems like a nice ability, and a fighter can build around it with extra +hit which makes for more build diversity. If there was a desire to change it, the other ability that I would propose in its place would be anime sword master: use a two handed weapon in one hand (and yes it definitely needs a better name).
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2021 Fighter Relic/Legendary Almost Final! 1 year 11 months ago #26

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Can a fighter both Whirlwind and Power Attack in the same round?

It reads like they can (and I think they should), but looking for confirmation.
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2021 Fighter Relic/Legendary Almost Final! 1 year 11 months ago #27

NightGod wrote: Can a fighter both Whirlwind and Power Attack in the same round?

It reads like they can (and I think they should), but looking for confirmation.

Whirlwind is automatically applied as long as you remind your DM and Power attack is a choice so I'm pretty sure they do stack.
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2021 Fighter Relic/Legendary Almost Final! 1 year 11 months ago #28

As a Deathcleaver user, I was happy accepting the risk trade off of not using a shield and losing the bonus to Reflex.

Could two-handed weapon users like me please get the improved crit?
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2021 Fighter Relic/Legendary Almost Final! 1 year 11 months ago #29

I'm thinking we all need to roll into the dungeon wearing these around our necks. ;)

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2021 Fighter Relic/Legendary Almost Final! 1 year 11 months ago #30

Aaron Jozwiak wrote: As a Deathcleaver user, I was happy accepting the risk trade off of not using a shield and losing the bonus to Reflex.

Could two-handed weapon users like me please get the improved crit?


It feels weird to be 1-handed only since it does cut out the other half of the fighters.
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2021 Fighter Relic/Legendary Almost Final! 1 year 11 months ago #31

Tim wrote:

Aaron Jozwiak wrote: As a Deathcleaver user, I was happy accepting the risk trade off of not using a shield and losing the bonus to Reflex.

Could two-handed weapon users like me please get the improved crit?


It feels weird to be 1-handed only since it does cut out the other half of the fighters.


The discussion was that these class specific Legendaries were meant to further distinguish the classes from one another. The 2-handed weapon bonus is on the Barbarian token and not here for that reason. Adding it here might also make a 2-handed weapon more effective in the hands of a Fighter than a Barbarian which it should not be.

IMO, I think it's fine for a Fighter to chose to use a 2-handed weapon, but they shouldn't get a bonus for it.
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2021 Fighter Relic/Legendary Almost Final! 1 year 11 months ago #32

Weapon mastery
Choose 1 in coaching:
- improve crit range
- improve crit multiplier
- whirlwind works in ranged

Then you can pick what best suits your playstyle and it saves room on token
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2021 Fighter Relic/Legendary Almost Final! 1 year 11 months ago #33

SnakeEyes (Eric) wrote: I'm thinking we all need to roll into the dungeon wearing these around our necks. ;)

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Take my money now!

Or put it on a redesigned Fighter T Shirt.
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2021 Fighter Relic/Legendary Almost Final! 1 year 11 months ago #34

Harlax wrote:

SnakeEyes (Eric) wrote: I'm thinking we all need to roll into the dungeon wearing these around our necks. ;)

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Take my money now!

Or put it on a redesigned Fighter T Shirt.


Ordered, got it off Amazon.ca for $22 shipped! It doesn't arrive till October but cheap is cheap!
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2021 Fighter Relic/Legendary Almost Final! 1 year 11 months ago #35

FatalDrakkon wrote:

Harlax wrote:

SnakeEyes (Eric) wrote: I'm thinking we all need to roll into the dungeon wearing these around our necks. ;)

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Take my money now!

Or put it on a redesigned Fighter T Shirt.


Ordered, got it off Amazon.ca for $22 shipped! It doesn't arrive till October but cheap is cheap!


The version I see has some sort of fake gem in the mouth. But its really close and a bit cheaper.
D&D teaches all the important lessons in life - the low blow, the cheap shot, the back stab, the double cross. - Jerry Marsischky

Let them trap us. We have our swords. - Elric of Melnibone.

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I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend - Faramir
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2021 Fighter Relic/Legendary Almost Final! 1 year 11 months ago #36

Harlax wrote:

SnakeEyes (Eric) wrote:

Tim wrote:

Aaron Jozwiak wrote: As a Deathcleaver user, I was happy accepting the risk trade off of not using a shield and losing the bonus to Reflex.

Could two-handed weapon users like me please get the improved crit?


It feels weird to be 1-handed only since it does cut out the other half of the fighters.


The discussion was that these class specific Legendaries were meant to further distinguish the classes from one another. The 2-handed weapon bonus is on the Barbarian token and not here for that reason. Adding it here might also make a 2-handed weapon more effective in the hands of a Fighter than a Barbarian which is should not be.

IMO, I think it's fine for a Fighter to chose to use a 2-handed weapon, but they shouldn't get a bonus for it.


Its a compromise.

If you gave me the proverbial magic wand your wish would be granted. Not to be a downer, but we have had a tough slog on this design with a lot of back and forth. We are more like to lose the enhanced crit than to expand it the longer this goes on. .


Yeah - take a cue from the Wizards and take a win and get off the field :whistle: .

Next version might be: No stat bonuses, declare 3 numbers on the board between 2 and 16, if you slide on those numbers and the result is a hit, add that number to your damage total and it counts as a crit, 1/room.
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