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2021 Ultra Rare Almost Final! 1 year 3 months ago #37

David Zych wrote:

James Bennett wrote: ... Ring of Quick Prayer. I do suggest considering dropping the Druid from it because the cleric has more limited damage spells which are harder to use than the druid can cast.

Edit: I just saw they were removed from the Ring of Power. I alter my suggestion to remove them from Ring of Quick Prayer and put them on Ring of Power.


No, as much as it pains me to say so (since they are my two main classes), removing both Cleric and Druid from Ring of Power Expertise was definitely the right call.

Otherwise an extra 7x Cure Light Wounds each (with full bonuses) would be tantamount to reinstating the original LoDS, and tempt the wrath of the whatever from high atop the thing.

(OK maybe 6x if the party takes no damage in the first room, but still)

A Druid with Ring of Quick Prayer is burning through their fixed allotment of spells twice as fast, not getting extra spells. Doesn't seem like a problem to me, especially since every spell cast for damage is one less to spell-swap for healing.

It's ironic that the Ring of Quick Prayer does not in fact enable quick Prayer (you need the relic for that). Would Ring of Blessing be a better name? If not, I'm happy to just smile at the irony each time I equip it. :)

In other news, I am much less in need of charm bracelets now. Also it's too bad that Charm of Bonding is already cut; I could really use a Charm of Being Able to Hit Things Better (even without the +dmg). Still, good set!



Here you go. Good idea!

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2021 Ultra Rare Almost Final! 1 year 3 months ago #38

Pstyle wrote: Charm of the Faerie is cool, but it's already better than the Volunteer token that just came out last year which kind of sucks I think.


Could Charm of the Faerie perhaps be changed to just grant +1 DEX? That way it won't replace the Greater Quicksilver Charm in builds, and the melee builds which will use it won't necessarily need the +2 DEX anyway.

I really like the 6/10 being printed on the Nightshade's Throwing Dagger, clarification may be needed of whether it counts as a 6 for triggering Assassinate when Sneak Attacking.
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2021 Ultra Rare Almost Final! 1 year 3 months ago #39

Iross wrote:

Pstyle wrote: Charm of the Faerie is cool, but it's already better than the Volunteer token that just came out last year which kind of sucks I think.


Could Charm of the Faerie perhaps be changed to just grant +1 DEX? That way it won't replace the Greater Quicksilver Charm in builds, and the melee builds which will use it won't necessarily need the +2 DEX anyway.

I really like the 6/10 being printed on the Nightshade's Throwing Dagger, clarification may be needed of whether it counts as a 6 for triggering Assassinate when Sneak Attacking.


Sorry...my bad. Here is the new version. Also, the 6 will trigger Assassinate.

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2021 Ultra Rare Almost Final! 1 year 3 months ago #40

MEC looks like it's missing its class restrictions. Unless it's intentional for Druids/Bards/Clerics to have the option?
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2021 Ultra Rare Almost Final! 1 year 3 months ago #41

Jeff Martin wrote:

Iross wrote:

Pstyle wrote: Charm of the Faerie is cool, but it's already better than the Volunteer token that just came out last year which kind of sucks I think.


Could Charm of the Faerie perhaps be changed to just grant +1 DEX? That way it won't replace the Greater Quicksilver Charm in builds, and the melee builds which will use it won't necessarily need the +2 DEX anyway.

I really like the 6/10 being printed on the Nightshade's Throwing Dagger, clarification may be needed of whether it counts as a 6 for triggering Assassinate when Sneak Attacking.


Sorry...my bad. Here is the new version. Also, the 6 will trigger Assassinate.


Let me be even more pedantic!

Could it possibly be changed to a Figurine of Power (haven't had a nice one in a while) that has the effect

May attack ranged enemies with melee weapons for 1 room (1/game)

Effectively a slotted 1/game potion of leaping attack, no +Dex bonus but allows the attacks for the whole fight.


Is that too strong for a Figurine of Power?
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2021 Ultra Rare Almost Final! 1 year 3 months ago #42

Ho-Yi Fung wrote: MEC looks like it's missing its class restrictions. Unless it's intentional for Druids/Bards/Clerics to have the option?


Thanks! Sorry...working 16 hour days makes for too many mistakes! I'm going to bed now! Oh, and I hope everyone likes the crazy design of this token. It is supposed to represent the wild magic inside the Charm doing damage to the token itself. Meta...

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2021 Ultra Rare Almost Final! 1 year 3 months ago #43

Jeff Martin wrote:

Ho-Yi Fung wrote: MEC looks like it's missing its class restrictions. Unless it's intentional for Druids/Bards/Clerics to have the option?


Thanks! Sorry...working 16 hour days makes for too many mistakes! I'm going to bed now! Oh, and I hope everyone likes the crazy design of this token. It is supposed to represent the wild magic inside the Charm doing damage to the token itself. Meta...


I love it :)

Maybe you can really up the "broken magic" feel by just adding crackling energy all across the token image, way outside of the charm itself.

Thank you so much for putting in so much time on these designs (and dealing with our freakouts) have a good night's rest ^_^
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2021 Ultra Rare Almost Final! 1 year 3 months ago #44

Jeff Martin wrote: Here you go. Good idea!


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2021 Ultra Rare Almost Final! 1 year 3 months ago #45

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Jeff Martin wrote: Sorry...my bad. Here is the new version. Also, the 6 will trigger Assassinate.

Nice. Niiiice.


Mmmm, I like that as a new token, too.
In fact, for Rogues who don't want to invest in the new Nightshade Dagger (because they are Viper users, or have the original NS Shortsword), this Charm would allow them to make their Sneak attack (once/room) against a flying target, using their melee to-hit. That could free up an eye slot item, at the cost of a Charm (which has more slots available over-all.)

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2021 Ultra Rare Almost Final! 1 year 3 months ago #46

Nice work on the tokens Jeff. While I'm sad not to get a spellbook or familiars this year, I think you made the right decision. Making the spellbook a medallion just did not feel right. In the end it felt like a medallion with spellbook qualities, but not a true spellbook. So I guess we have to wait yet another year for the "fun" stuff. ok.

And this is not a criticism, just an observation, but I seem to have gotten to the level where URs don't really help my build. Thus, I haven't been commenting on them a whole lot. They seem intended for players who are ready to take that next step in their build, but haven't been at this long enough to accumulate very many BIS tokens.

As it stands, the only UR token I will need for my build is the platinum nugget. Other URs will just be needed for transmute recipes. A few might be useful for specialty purposes for my backup builds, but really nothing here that will crack into a top build for wizards (at least nothing that hasn't been previously released).
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2021 Ultra Rare Almost Final! 1 year 3 months ago #47

David Zych wrote: A Druid with Ring of Quick Prayer is burning through their fixed allotment of spells twice as fast, not getting extra spells. Doesn't seem like a problem to me, especially since every spell cast for damage is one less to spell-swap for healing.


I see this actually getting even more use by Druids using the Relic/Legendary. Smack the enemy with a strong Polymorph attack, and then still cast a beefy damage spell at them as well the same round.
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2021 Ultra Rare Almost Final! 1 year 3 months ago #48

Dave wrote: Nice work on the tokens Jeff. While I'm sad not to get a spellbook or familiars this year, I think you made the right decision. Making the spellbook a medallion just did not feel right. In the end it felt like a medallion with spellbook qualities, but not a true spellbook. So I guess we have to wait yet another year for the "fun" stuff. ok.

And this is not a criticism, just an observation, but I seem to have gotten to the level where URs don't really help my build. Thus, I haven't been commenting on them a whole lot. They seem intended for players who are ready to take that next step in their build, but haven't been at this long enough to accumulate very many BIS tokens.

As it stands, the only UR token I will need for my build is the platinum nugget. Other URs will just be needed for transmute recipes. A few might be useful for specialty purposes for my backup builds, but really nothing here that will crack into a top build for wizards (at least nothing that hasn't been previously released).


If you're already purpled-out on your main build and were still seeing a lot of URs you want for it, that would probably be a sign that too much power creep is slipping through.
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