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2021 Rare Feedback 3 years 7 months ago #49

Mike Steele wrote:

Jeff Martin wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote: Could Pendant of Surging gain:

You may equip when also equipping Shaman's Greater Necklace or Iktomi's Shaper Necklace

?


We will tweak all the class Relics and Legendaries after this process is over. It would have been better to design all of these at one time, but that is something a smart person would have done. Stay tuned.


Thanks, Jeff! Hopefully the Druid Legendary gets more than a tweak. :)


Thanks for the headsup Jeff. It helps me plan on transmutes to gather for send in and which ones to put aside until later.
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2021 Rare Feedback 3 years 7 months ago #50

Guedoji wrote: He said it does not negate sneak attack immunity, but does negate critical attack immunity, stating monsters with both sneak attack and crit immunities are extremely rare, so the crit immunity piece will cover most cases.


I'm trying, and failing, to come up with some succinct text to express the nuance of "Your sneak attacks ignore critical immunities, which in turn means they ignore sneak attack immunities except when the monster is immune to surprise; +2 to hit with sneak attacks".

Maybe someone else can suggest some text so it's clear on the token itself?
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2021 Rare Feedback 3 years 7 months ago #51

Marc D wrote:

Guedoji wrote: He said it does not negate sneak attack immunity, but does negate critical attack immunity, stating monsters with both sneak attack and crit immunities are extremely rare, so the crit immunity piece will cover most cases.


I'm trying, and failing, to come up with some succinct text to express the nuance of "Your sneak attacks ignore critical immunities, which in turn means they ignore sneak attack immunities except when the monster is immune to surprise; +2 to hit with sneak attacks".

Maybe someone else can suggest some text so it's clear on the token itself?


I think the way Jeff worded it does communicate this. It just requires a clear understanding of what Immunity to Sneak Attack means, which I'm sure will be clarified on the Tdb entry.
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2021 Rare Feedback 3 years 7 months ago #52

Arnold wrote:

Marc D wrote:

Guedoji wrote: He said it does not negate sneak attack immunity, but does negate critical attack immunity, stating monsters with both sneak attack and crit immunities are extremely rare, so the crit immunity piece will cover most cases.


I'm trying, and failing, to come up with some succinct text to express the nuance of "Your sneak attacks ignore critical immunities, which in turn means they ignore sneak attack immunities except when the monster is immune to surprise; +2 to hit with sneak attacks".

Maybe someone else can suggest some text so it's clear on the token itself?


I think the way Jeff worded it does communicate this. It just requires a clear understanding of what Immunity to Sneak Attack means, which I'm sure will be clarified on the Tdb entry.


I agree. What I'm hoping is for something that communicates that without a clear understanding of what immunity to sneak attack means or reference to TokenDB. In other words, something that someone opening a pack in the coaching room understands and doesn't cause debate from DM's in the dungeon.
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2021 Rare Feedback 3 years 7 months ago #53

Mike Steele wrote: Jeff, I see that there isn't a Rare Polymorph Potion in the set currently. How about a Potion Polymorph Fairie with Flying or a Polymorph Potion that grants Leaping Attack (which shouldn't be a problem since there is already a Potion of Leaping Attack). It would be nice to have some unique Polymorph Potions to pick from. :)


Potion: Polymorph Sky Frog.
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2021 Rare Feedback 3 years 7 months ago #54

Beertram wrote:

Mike Steele wrote: Jeff, I see that there isn't a Rare Polymorph Potion in the set currently. How about a Potion Polymorph Fairie with Flying or a Polymorph Potion that grants Leaping Attack (which shouldn't be a problem since there is already a Potion of Leaping Attack). It would be nice to have some unique Polymorph Potions to pick from. :)


Potion: Polymorph Sky Frog.


Nailed it!
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2021 Rare Feedback 3 years 7 months ago #55

Looks like 10 neck slots unless I’m miscounting. Maybe cut the neck slots down to 4
Add some more armor, weapons, and scrolls
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2021 Rare Feedback 3 years 7 months ago #56

Beertram wrote:

Mike Steele wrote: Jeff, I see that there isn't a Rare Polymorph Potion in the set currently. How about a Potion Polymorph Fairie with Flying or a Polymorph Potion that grants Leaping Attack (which shouldn't be a problem since there is already a Potion of Leaping Attack). It would be nice to have some unique Polymorph Potions to pick from. :)


Potion: Polymorph Sky Frog.


Potion: Polymorph Flying Squirrel
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2021 Rare Feedback 3 years 7 months ago #57

Wayne Rhodes wrote: Looks like 10 neck slots unless I’m miscounting. Maybe cut the neck slots down to 4
Add some more armor, weapons, and scrolls


I think you missed the blurb at the front saying all 10 classes are getting their own unique neck slots this year as part of the rare set design
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2021 Rare Feedback 3 years 7 months ago #58

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Arcanist Kolixela wrote: Necklace of Carnage seems rather strong with no 1/room 1/game limitations? +10 damage potentially every turn is nearly up there with some of the relic necklaces.

+4 or +6 might be better numbers?


Especially since the wizard necklace is just once per game.
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2021 Rare Feedback 3 years 7 months ago #59

Jeff Martin wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote: Could Pendant of Surging gain:

You may equip when also equipping Shaman's Greater Necklace or Iktomi's Shaper Necklace

?


We will tweak all the class Relics and Legendaries after this process is over. It would have been better to design all of these at one time, but that is something a smart person would have done. Stay tuned.


Whooh, some how I glossed over this. Is this saying the other classes will have their relic and legendary necklace s completely redone? Or is it saying just the transmute would be reworked?

I was thinking some of these new legendaries were far exceeding some of the previous classes.

Did others notice this? I'm shock this hasn't blown up the forums.
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2021 Rare Feedback 3 years 7 months ago #60

Guedoji wrote:

Jeff Martin wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote: Could Pendant of Surging gain:

You may equip when also equipping Shaman's Greater Necklace or Iktomi's Shaper Necklace

?


We will tweak all the class Relics and Legendaries after this process is over. It would have been better to design all of these at one time, but that is something a smart person would have done. Stay tuned.


Whooh, some how I glossed over this. Is this saying the other classes will have their relic and legendary necklace s completely redone? Or is it saying just the transmute would be reworked?

I was thinking some of these new legendaries were far exceeding some of the previous classes.

Did others notice this? I'm shock this hasn't blown up the forums.


Tweak seems to imply small changes, so yes I think Jeff is opening the door to making modest changes for power balance. I would expect that these will be changes that can be made in TokenDB and not require exchanging the tokens, but we will have to wait and see.
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