TOPIC: Ultra Rare Token Ideas

A lot of the focus tokens I've seen proposed on this thread and others are omitting polymorph bonuses.

If you separate polymorph bonuses out, then Druids that enjoy playing poly builds (myself included) would then need to lobby for URs that deal strictly with polymorphing.

If the goal is to punish a subset of druids from getting the polymorph damage bonus, it could theoretically just lead to very narrow URs in the future. I don't think many players would like to get an Ioun Stone that gives +3 poly damage for their random UR.

If Ioun Stone Banshee Prism and Ring of the Eel are indicators, it appears that TPTB are favoring designs that are more universally usable as opposed to tokens that are narrow in scope.

Adaptation of a suggestion by Singsalot

Lenses of Secrets - 1/game gain a clue not related to your class, specify which one you want
(Bard clue, Rogue Clue, etc)

Arcanist Kolixela wrote: Adaptation of a suggestion by Singsalot

Lenses of Secrets - 1/game gain a clue not related to your class, specify which one you want
(Bard clue, Rogue Clue, etc)

This would be an interesting FoP. I think it fits with the 1/ game. Perhaps limit the classes that could equip?

Arnold wrote: A lot of the focus tokens I've seen proposed on this thread and others are omitting polymorph bonuses.

If you separate polymorph bonuses out, then Druids that enjoy playing poly builds (myself included) would then need to lobby for URs that deal strictly with polymorphing.

If the goal is to punish a subset of druids from getting the polymorph damage bonus, it could theoretically just lead to very narrow URs in the future. I don't think many players would like to get an Ioun Stone that gives +3 poly damage for their random UR.

If Ioun Stone Banshee Prism and Ring of the Eel are indicators, it appears that TPTB are favoring designs that are more universally usable as opposed to tokens that are narrow in scope.

An oversight on my end. We've got precedence for focus items giving +poly damage including the Baton Relic (but not staff relic)

Arnold wrote:

Arcanist Kolixela wrote: Adaptation of a suggestion by Singsalot

Lenses of Secrets - 1/game gain a clue not related to your class, specify which one you want
(Bard clue, Rogue Clue, etc)

This would be an interesting FoP. I think it fits with the 1/ game. Perhaps limit the classes that could equip?

Figurine of Power: Whispering Wind?

I would not limit the classes that can equip. If they are giving up a restricted to 1/2 tokens slot to equip it I'd be willing to allow it for any class.

It's effectively allowing any class to give up a token slot for the slotless bowl of spirit sight Druid exclusive UR token. Seems fair to me

Arcanist Kolixela wrote:

Arnold wrote: A lot of the focus tokens I've seen proposed on this thread and others are omitting polymorph bonuses.

If you separate polymorph bonuses out, then Druids that enjoy playing poly builds (myself included) would then need to lobby for URs that deal strictly with polymorphing.

If the goal is to punish a subset of druids from getting the polymorph damage bonus, it could theoretically just lead to very narrow URs in the future. I don't think many players would like to get an Ioun Stone that gives +3 poly damage for their random UR.

If Ioun Stone Banshee Prism and Ring of the Eel are indicators, it appears that TPTB are favoring designs that are more universally usable as opposed to tokens that are narrow in scope.

An oversight on my end. We've got precedence for focus items giving +poly damage including the Baton Relic (but not staff relic)

My intention wasn't too single anyone out. I've seen it across multiple threads.

I'm like any other player...I want to have my cake and eat it too. The last handful "of focus" tokens were all polymorph friendly. I'm just hoping that focus remains a bonus to all 3 stats.

Arnold wrote:

Arcanist Kolixela wrote:

Arnold wrote: A lot of the focus tokens I've seen proposed on this thread and others are omitting polymorph bonuses.

If you separate polymorph bonuses out, then Druids that enjoy playing poly builds (myself included) would then need to lobby for URs that deal strictly with polymorphing.

If the goal is to punish a subset of druids from getting the polymorph damage bonus, it could theoretically just lead to very narrow URs in the future. I don't think many players would like to get an Ioun Stone that gives +3 poly damage for their random UR.

If Ioun Stone Banshee Prism and Ring of the Eel are indicators, it appears that TPTB are favoring designs that are more universally usable as opposed to tokens that are narrow in scope.

An oversight on my end. We've got precedence for focus items giving +poly damage including the Baton Relic (but not staff relic)

My intention wasn't too single anyone out. I've seen it across multiple threads.

I'm like any other player...I want to have my cake and eat it too. The last handful "of focus" tokens were all polymorph friendly. I'm just hoping that focus remains a bonus to all 3 stats.

Definitely a good statement. Should keep the focus to all 3 effects.

Arcanist Kolixela wrote:

Arnold wrote:

Arcanist Kolixela wrote: Adaptation of a suggestion by Singsalot

Lenses of Secrets - 1/game gain a clue not related to your class, specify which one you want
(Bard clue, Rogue Clue, etc)

This would be an interesting FoP. I think it fits with the 1/ game. Perhaps limit the classes that could equip?

Figurine of Power: Whispering Wind?

I would not limit the classes that can equip. If they are giving up a restricted to 1/2 tokens slot to equip it I'd be willing to allow it for any class.

It's effectively allowing any class to give up a token slot for the slotless bowl of spirit sight Druid exclusive UR token. Seems fair to me

Yeah that's fair. It'd be an UR, after all. I don't open a Bowl, but it's good precedent for an UR figurine like this.

Not to mention it's not even that good if your group has a rogue/bard.

Gem topped northern white ash (used to make baseball bats and good shock resistance) cane with a metal tip. Inside the can is hidden a sword. But the cane itself is stylin and profiling as your character walks with it.

+4 to Charisma and has two attack wheels of 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 if used as a club and 4, 5, 6 ,7 , 8, special if used as a sword. Special on the sword results in a critical hit that does x3 damage.

Matthew Hayward wrote: I do think a similar ideas of:
"Your Melee damage modifier is computed using DEX instead of STR."
Would be OK.

Isn't that the old finesse feat? I'd assumed there was a reason it hadn't been added yet to TD, but...

UR +2 Swashbuckling Rapier of Finesse: Your melee damage modifier is computed using DEX instead of STR.
R +1 Parrying Dagger of Finesse: confers +2 AC and +1/+1 on a Finesse main-hand weapon

edwin wrote: Gem topped northern white ash (used to make baseball bats and good shock resistance) cane with a metal tip. Inside the can is hidden a sword. But the cane itself is stylin and profiling as your character walks with it.

+4 to Charisma and has two attack wheels of 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 if used as a club and 4, 5, 6 ,7 , 8, special if used as a sword. Special on the sword results in a critical hit that does x3 damage.

I'd avoid doing double sided tokens. sets a bad precedent.

It'd be a bad idea to have two damage wheels on the token that the DM has to ask about before calculating damage.

Cool in concept

All purpose silk slippers that are +4 to dexterity and +2 to charisma. These slippers actually never touch the surface as they provide a thin cushion of air between their sole and the surface. This ensures that they are their best looking.