TOPIC: Rare Token Ideas

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Endgame wrote: Interesting enough, if you printed something that allowed 2 neck slots, you could equip:
Neck 1: horn of plenty
Neck 2: Amulet of treasure finding
Ring 1: ring of riches
Charm 1: charm of good fortune
Ioun 1 and 2: nuggets
Slotless: 6th level

Total is 25 treasure (4 above using CoA).

I’m onboard with this - I’ll find a way to get a horn of plenty

Not sure if you are joking - but read the TDb entry for CoA/HoP/AoTF - they can never be used together - it doesn’t matter what slots you have.

I don't think Joking is the right word, I think the word you're looking for is Obtuse.

Endgame wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Endgame wrote: Interesting enough, if you printed something that allowed 2 neck slots, you could equip:
Neck 1: horn of plenty
Neck 2: Amulet of treasure finding
Ring 1: ring of riches
Charm 1: charm of good fortune
Ioun 1 and 2: nuggets
Slotless: 6th level

Total is 25 treasure (4 above using CoA).

I’m onboard with this - I’ll find a way to get a horn of plenty

Not sure if you are joking - but read the TDb entry for CoA/HoP/AoTF - they can never be used together - it doesn’t matter what slots you have.

Coa says you can’t use Any of the components, or the AoTF. I didn’t see anything in the entries for the individual URs that says they can’t be used together.

Weird - I misremembered.

I would strongly suggest you get a ruling before making any choices about tokens as a result - I don’t believe these will be allowed together.

Miathan wrote:

Wayne Rhodes wrote:

Guedoji wrote:

True hero of time (THOT) wrote: I posted this late last year:

I had an idea for a mechanic. Soul binding.

While filling out the party card two players wearing a soul binding token may identify each other as bound souls. If bound, they activate the stats on the token. Soul binding means that if one dies the other also instantly dies. This allows people to role-play all types of kinship with an in-game impact.

For such a high cost I imagine something as below but trust the forums to balance the power for our meta and economy.

Bound ring of heroism (rare)
+1 level if character is bound to another player. Multiple bound effects do not stack. Each player must equip a binding token. Players cannot be bound to more than one person.

This sounds really fun! Though maybe this would be a transmuted item using some other Soul sharing ability as a +1 level rare seems incredibly strong. What if the Rare version offered like +2 added health and combined healing effects, but at an expense to when one player took direct (non group damage), the other took the same amount.

For the transmute that shared a +1 level, when the other dies, the player has until the end of the room to revive using Ash's Death Pouch and Potions giving them time to trigger a revive effect, if they can not, the soul bound player is soul broken and can not go on.

Personally I don’t think we should have a rare +1 level tokens. I just think it cheapens the URs and relics.

The ring of fateful heroism cost both ring slots and -1 saves. So any rares would need to be purely worse. Maybe 6 pedestrian rares and some kind of set bonus for +1 level I could see (ring, charm, amulet, Earcuff, bracers, and belt). That would be great for the hardcore players, but would make URs and relics way better still.

I have liked the idea for a large 6+ rare set bonus for a plus lvl for a while but I don’t remember it getting a lot of buzz when it was brought up last year

I agree +1 level is likely too strong. I just like the idea of soul binding people. Although I think death is instant and if you want to allow them to ash's they both have to pay ash's since they both died.

I am all for +1 level from 6 rares, but the rares shouldn't be too spectacular individually. For example the armor should be less defense than bliss armors and no stat bonus.

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Endgame wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Endgame wrote: Interesting enough, if you printed something that allowed 2 neck slots, you could equip:
Neck 1: horn of plenty
Neck 2: Amulet of treasure finding
Ring 1: ring of riches
Charm 1: charm of good fortune
Ioun 1 and 2: nuggets
Slotless: 6th level

Total is 25 treasure (4 above using CoA).

I’m onboard with this - I’ll find a way to get a horn of plenty

Not sure if you are joking - but read the TDb entry for CoA/HoP/AoTF - they can never be used together - it doesn’t matter what slots you have.

Coa says you can’t use Any of the components, or the AoTF. I didn’t see anything in the entries for the individual URs that says they can’t be used together.

Weird - I misremembered.

I would strongly suggest you get a ruling before making any choices about tokens as a result - I don’t believe these will be allowed together.

First it would require adding a second neck slot, which I would advocate against during token design.

Then it would require a ruling that HoP and AoTF could be used together, which I would also advocate against.

However, if it all happened, I already have everything on hand except for the HoP, so I would likely just buy one.

Endgame wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Endgame wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Endgame wrote: Interesting enough, if you printed something that allowed 2 neck slots, you could equip:
Neck 1: horn of plenty
Neck 2: Amulet of treasure finding
Ring 1: ring of riches
Charm 1: charm of good fortune
Ioun 1 and 2: nuggets
Slotless: 6th level

Total is 25 treasure (4 above using CoA).

I’m onboard with this - I’ll find a way to get a horn of plenty

Not sure if you are joking - but read the TDb entry for CoA/HoP/AoTF - they can never be used together - it doesn’t matter what slots you have.

Coa says you can’t use Any of the components, or the AoTF. I didn’t see anything in the entries for the individual URs that says they can’t be used together.

Weird - I misremembered.

I would strongly suggest you get a ruling before making any choices about tokens as a result - I don’t believe these will be allowed together.

First it would require adding a second neck slot, which I would advocate against during token design.

Then it would require a ruling that HoP and AoTF could be used together, which I would also advocate against.

However, if it all happened, I already have everything on hand except for the HoP, so I would likely just buy one.

So you would buy a 700$ HoP plus let’s say 100$ for a pyp for 4 extra draws a run.
Around 3$ a pull value puts you at 66 runs to net your investment back. I don’t think I’m in

Endgame wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Endgame wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Endgame wrote: Interesting enough, if you printed something that allowed 2 neck slots, you could equip:
Neck 1: horn of plenty
Neck 2: Amulet of treasure finding
Ring 1: ring of riches
Charm 1: charm of good fortune
Ioun 1 and 2: nuggets
Slotless: 6th level

Total is 25 treasure (4 above using CoA).

I’m onboard with this - I’ll find a way to get a horn of plenty

Not sure if you are joking - but read the TDb entry for CoA/HoP/AoTF - they can never be used together - it doesn’t matter what slots you have.

Coa says you can’t use Any of the components, or the AoTF. I didn’t see anything in the entries for the individual URs that says they can’t be used together.

Weird - I misremembered.

I would strongly suggest you get a ruling before making any choices about tokens as a result - I don’t believe these will be allowed together.

First it would require adding a second neck slot, which I would advocate against during token design.

Then it would require a ruling that HoP and AoTF could be used together, which I would also advocate against.

However, if it all happened, I already have everything on hand except for the HoP, so I would likely just buy one.

Reader scavenger hunt: you can have 2nd neck slot right now.

Let me know if you want a hint.

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Endgame wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Endgame wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Endgame wrote: Interesting enough, if you printed something that allowed 2 neck slots, you could equip:
Neck 1: horn of plenty
Neck 2: Amulet of treasure finding
Ring 1: ring of riches
Charm 1: charm of good fortune
Ioun 1 and 2: nuggets
Slotless: 6th level

Total is 25 treasure (4 above using CoA).

I’m onboard with this - I’ll find a way to get a horn of plenty

Not sure if you are joking - but read the TDb entry for CoA/HoP/AoTF - they can never be used together - it doesn’t matter what slots you have.

Coa says you can’t use Any of the components, or the AoTF. I didn’t see anything in the entries for the individual URs that says they can’t be used together.

Weird - I misremembered.

I would strongly suggest you get a ruling before making any choices about tokens as a result - I don’t believe these will be allowed together.

First it would require adding a second neck slot, which I would advocate against during token design.

Then it would require a ruling that HoP and AoTF could be used together, which I would also advocate against.

However, if it all happened, I already have everything on hand except for the HoP, so I would likely just buy one.

Reader scavenger hunt: you can have 2nd neck slot right now.

Let me know if you want a hint.

Other than by being Laz?

Fiddy wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Endgame wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Endgame wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Endgame wrote: Interesting enough, if you printed something that allowed 2 neck slots, you could equip:
Neck 1: horn of plenty
Neck 2: Amulet of treasure finding
Ring 1: ring of riches
Charm 1: charm of good fortune
Ioun 1 and 2: nuggets
Slotless: 6th level

Total is 25 treasure (4 above using CoA).

I’m onboard with this - I’ll find a way to get a horn of plenty

Not sure if you are joking - but read the TDb entry for CoA/HoP/AoTF - they can never be used together - it doesn’t matter what slots you have.

Coa says you can’t use Any of the components, or the AoTF. I didn’t see anything in the entries for the individual URs that says they can’t be used together.

Weird - I misremembered.

I would strongly suggest you get a ruling before making any choices about tokens as a result - I don’t believe these will be allowed together.

First it would require adding a second neck slot, which I would advocate against during token design.

Then it would require a ruling that HoP and AoTF could be used together, which I would also advocate against.

However, if it all happened, I already have everything on hand except for the HoP, so I would likely just buy one.

Reader scavenger hunt: you can have 2nd neck slot right now.

Let me know if you want a hint.

Other than by being Laz?

No being Laz required, although if you have the means it’s the best option.

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Endgame wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Endgame wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Endgame wrote: Interesting enough, if you printed something that allowed 2 neck slots, you could equip:
Neck 1: horn of plenty
Neck 2: Amulet of treasure finding
Ring 1: ring of riches
Charm 1: charm of good fortune
Ioun 1 and 2: nuggets
Slotless: 6th level

Total is 25 treasure (4 above using CoA).

I’m onboard with this - I’ll find a way to get a horn of plenty

Not sure if you are joking - but read the TDb entry for CoA/HoP/AoTF - they can never be used together - it doesn’t matter what slots you have.

Coa says you can’t use Any of the components, or the AoTF. I didn’t see anything in the entries for the individual URs that says they can’t be used together.

Weird - I misremembered.

I would strongly suggest you get a ruling before making any choices about tokens as a result - I don’t believe these will be allowed together.

First it would require adding a second neck slot, which I would advocate against during token design.

Then it would require a ruling that HoP and AoTF could be used together, which I would also advocate against.

However, if it all happened, I already have everything on hand except for the HoP, so I would likely just buy one.

Reader scavenger hunt: you can have 2nd neck slot right now.

Let me know if you want a hint.

There are at least 3 artifacts that would in some way let you do that.

Laz can do it now.

The golden Apple hands out an amulet of wonder for free (ex free, limited neck slot)

The radiant backpack would do it to, if willing to destroy the items permanently

Endgame wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Endgame wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Endgame wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Endgame wrote: Interesting enough, if you printed something that allowed 2 neck slots, you could equip:
Neck 1: horn of plenty
Neck 2: Amulet of treasure finding
Ring 1: ring of riches
Charm 1: charm of good fortune
Ioun 1 and 2: nuggets
Slotless: 6th level

Total is 25 treasure (4 above using CoA).

I’m onboard with this - I’ll find a way to get a horn of plenty

Not sure if you are joking - but read the TDb entry for CoA/HoP/AoTF - they can never be used together - it doesn’t matter what slots you have.

Coa says you can’t use Any of the components, or the AoTF. I didn’t see anything in the entries for the individual URs that says they can’t be used together.

Weird - I misremembered.

I would strongly suggest you get a ruling before making any choices about tokens as a result - I don’t believe these will be allowed together.

First it would require adding a second neck slot, which I would advocate against during token design.

Then it would require a ruling that HoP and AoTF could be used together, which I would also advocate against.

However, if it all happened, I already have everything on hand except for the HoP, so I would likely just buy one.

Reader scavenger hunt: you can have 2nd neck slot right now.

Let me know if you want a hint.

There are at least 3 artifacts that would in some way let you do that.

Laz can do it now.

The golden Apple hands out an amulet of wonder for free (ex free, limited neck slot)

The radiant backpack would do it to, if willing to destroy the items permanently

There is a way without artifacts.

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Endgame wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Endgame wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Endgame wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Endgame wrote: Interesting enough, if you printed something that allowed 2 neck slots, you could equip:
Neck 1: horn of plenty
Neck 2: Amulet of treasure finding
Ring 1: ring of riches
Charm 1: charm of good fortune
Ioun 1 and 2: nuggets
Slotless: 6th level

Total is 25 treasure (4 above using CoA).

I’m onboard with this - I’ll find a way to get a horn of plenty

Not sure if you are joking - but read the TDb entry for CoA/HoP/AoTF - they can never be used together - it doesn’t matter what slots you have.

Coa says you can’t use Any of the components, or the AoTF. I didn’t see anything in the entries for the individual URs that says they can’t be used together.

Weird - I misremembered.

I would strongly suggest you get a ruling before making any choices about tokens as a result - I don’t believe these will be allowed together.

First it would require adding a second neck slot, which I would advocate against during token design.

Then it would require a ruling that HoP and AoTF could be used together, which I would also advocate against.

However, if it all happened, I already have everything on hand except for the HoP, so I would likely just buy one.

Reader scavenger hunt: you can have 2nd neck slot right now.

Let me know if you want a hint.

There are at least 3 artifacts that would in some way let you do that.

Laz can do it now.

The golden Apple hands out an amulet of wonder for free (ex free, limited neck slot)

The radiant backpack would do it to, if willing to destroy the items permanently

There is a way without artifacts.

You could also run a ghost in a dungeon.

There may be a hitchhiking ghost that lets you do it, but it’s not in tokendb

Endgame wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Endgame wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Endgame wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Endgame wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Endgame wrote: Interesting enough, if you printed something that allowed 2 neck slots, you could equip:
Neck 1: horn of plenty
Neck 2: Amulet of treasure finding
Ring 1: ring of riches
Charm 1: charm of good fortune
Ioun 1 and 2: nuggets
Slotless: 6th level

Total is 25 treasure (4 above using CoA).

I’m onboard with this - I’ll find a way to get a horn of plenty

Not sure if you are joking - but read the TDb entry for CoA/HoP/AoTF - they can never be used together - it doesn’t matter what slots you have.

Coa says you can’t use Any of the components, or the AoTF. I didn’t see anything in the entries for the individual URs that says they can’t be used together.

Weird - I misremembered.

I would strongly suggest you get a ruling before making any choices about tokens as a result - I don’t believe these will be allowed together.

First it would require adding a second neck slot, which I would advocate against during token design.

Then it would require a ruling that HoP and AoTF could be used together, which I would also advocate against.

However, if it all happened, I already have everything on hand except for the HoP, so I would likely just buy one.

Reader scavenger hunt: you can have 2nd neck slot right now.

Let me know if you want a hint.

There are at least 3 artifacts that would in some way let you do that.

Laz can do it now.

The golden Apple hands out an amulet of wonder for free (ex free, limited neck slot)

The radiant backpack would do it to, if willing to destroy the items permanently

There is a way without artifacts.

You could also run a ghost in a dungeon.

There may be a hitchhiking ghost that lets you do it, but it’s not in tokendb

The way I'm thinking of is not a ghost, and does not restrict what you can put in your two neck slots (HHG's seem to limit to a rare item).