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Final Ultra Rare Images 5 years 3 months ago #49

Harlax wrote:

Andrew Haas wrote: It's late in the development process for this but I really want to point out that the Arcane Belt is way too good. It should just be +2 to Spell and Ranged damage not an effective +2 Focus and Draco-Lich Charm level effect.

Also, the Skull needs to be put into a slot along with a lot of the other slot-less power tokens like Kvothe's Bloodless. It will be a popular token but it won't stimulate demand for new Teeth like people are hoping, not unless its something like "+2 hp/tooth, max 4 teeth". +1hp/token is just not a big enough incentive to support the price of the newest teeth.


The Skull argument has been made during every iteration of development. It doesn’t appear likely to change.

I think it will be a nice bonus for those who only recently have begun making large orders. But only if is slotless.

If the combined teeth token also imbues psychic power, the Skull will have a very short useful life.



The intended audience is not just people with the seven teeth transmute. It’s like you said, people who just got into it.

The individual rod pieces do things on their own. The teeth really don’t. This helps people who will not be making the transmute but have a few of the later teeth.

And if people who transmute end up not needing or wanting this skull, it means they go on the market for future players who won’t have the full transmute but might have picked up or can pick up a few teeth very cheap.

I am of the opinion this skull is one of the best designed and thought out tokens this year.
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Final Ultra Rare Images 5 years 3 months ago #50

Here is the "functional re-print" but in another slot of the Amulet of Wonder. It would replace the +3 Rod of the Meek.

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Final Ultra Rare Images 5 years 3 months ago #51

Love the image. Any concern about what used to be neck level now being in the ring slot, especially this year, when we can get this and 2 others fairly easily?

I worry it will make us design the "wonder" powers even weaker than they have been recently.
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Final Ultra Rare Images 5 years 3 months ago #52

So it sounds like the name Lenses of the Agility is being changed to just Lenses of Agility, which is clean and all, buuuut...

What about Lenses of the Agile *noun*?

Agile Sneak?
Agile Sniper?
Agile Guttersnipe?

Agile Scoundrel?

Just something that struck me.
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Final Ultra Rare Images 5 years 3 months ago #53

Jeff Martin wrote: Here is the "functional re-print" but in another slot of the Amulet of Wonder. It would replace the +3 Rod of the Meek.


So, what happens if you equip the Ring AND the Amulet?
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Final Ultra Rare Images 5 years 3 months ago #54

Harlax wrote:

Jeff Martin wrote: Here is the "functional re-print" but in another slot of the Amulet of Wonder. It would replace the +3 Rod of the Meek.


So, what happens if you equip the Ring AND the Amulet?


Laz comes and showers you with confetti while playing a snappy tune on kazoo.

Or you get turned inside out by cosmic forces Man Was Not Meant To Know Nor Understand.

Something like that, I'm sure.
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Final Ultra Rare Images 5 years 3 months ago #55

Harlax wrote:

Jeff Martin wrote: Here is the "functional re-print" but in another slot of the Amulet of Wonder. It would replace the +3 Rod of the Meek.


So, what happens if you equip the Ring AND the Amulet?


Nothing special I suppose. The effects are identical, so the same as wearing one.
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Final Ultra Rare Images 5 years 3 months ago #56

Jeff Martin wrote:

Harlax wrote:

Jeff Martin wrote: Here is the "functional re-print" but in another slot of the Amulet of Wonder. It would replace the +3 Rod of the Meek.


So, what happens if you equip the Ring AND the Amulet?


Nothing special I suppose. The effects are identical, so the same as wearing one.


Unless we go back to a die roll for effect. But I’m guessing (hoping actually) that we never do.
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Final Ultra Rare Images 5 years 3 months ago #57

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Final Ultra Rare Images 5 years 3 months ago #58

Andrew Haas wrote: It's late in the development process for this but I really want to point out that the Arcane Belt is way too good. It should just be +2 to Spell and Ranged damage not an effective +2 Focus and Draco-Lich Charm level effect.


Waist slot is inherently more powerful than Charm slot at boosting combat stats - compare 2005 UR Girdle of Hill Giant Strength with 13 years of power creep later Greater Onyx Charm, Viper Strike Belt with Greater Quicksilver Charm.

I don't think +2 damage to all your attacks and +2 to healing is too powerful for a UR waist slot item, given that melee types have been getting something like +3 STR or better in the waist slot since 2005 from UR, and are now getting +3 STR from a 4 star enhanced token.
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Final Ultra Rare Images 5 years 3 months ago #59

Harlax wrote:

Jeff Martin wrote:

Harlax wrote:

Jeff Martin wrote: Here is the "functional re-print" but in another slot of the Amulet of Wonder. It would replace the +3 Rod of the Meek.


So, what happens if you equip the Ring AND the Amulet?


Nothing special I suppose. The effects are identical, so the same as wearing one.


Unless we go back to a die roll for effect. But I’m guessing (hoping actually) that we never do.


Quick errata in the TokenDB for both Tokens stating you can only benefit from one "Wonder" item. Problem solved
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Final Ultra Rare Images 5 years 3 months ago #60

Wade Schwendemann wrote:

Mike Steele wrote: Hi Jeff,

Thanks for adding +1 Mighty Shortbow.

Wouldn't Charms of Glory and Brooching be more consistent if they had wording like "May Equip up to one additional Back Slot item" for Brooching and "May equip up to one more Ring" for Glory?

Lenses of Agility: Making it +4 Dex and making it Bows and Crossbows is too much I think. +2 Dex and just Bows was fine.


The intent of Charm of Glory and Charmmof Brooching is to future proof them I believe.

I also think the goal.of the lenses is to have them go toe to toe with other eye slot items (LoVI, Sniper's, LotF, etc) while allowing for new players to be excited and give non-Thor's (and non-sling) wielding Rogues a reprint. I suppose it could be expanded to say "2handed ranged weapon" to include a blunder weapon.
If my assumptions regarding their goals are correct, they hit it perfectly.


But, they could future proof them just like they did with charms and Stones by capping the total amount allowed. It seems unnecessarily confusing to handle them in two different ways.
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