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Putting this in the correct thread:

Question on the Charm of Glory:

Is there any class or build that does not always swap one charm for a ring, especially now that there is extra charm slots granted by an earcuff?

Kirk Bauer wrote: OK, I revise my suggestion. Keep the Arcane items to Cabal items and don't change their slots. We'll just need a creative name for the Arcane Bracelets.

Great idea Kirk honestly upset I didn’t think to add to an existing set.

Agreed not changing bracelets to head because that only punishes cleric for armor head piece sets.

But cabal items please!!

Ian Lee wrote: Charm of Shuriken Mastery
(no class restriction as shuriken already restrict classes)
+3 dmg with Shurikens. Monk: Shurikens gain Returning effect.

I like what you say but I would prefer it just say +3 Ranged damage that way it can go on the party card. If you are worried about class abuse to get ranged damage then restrict it.

Ed

Endgame wrote: Putting this in the correct thread:

Question on the Charm of Glory:

Is there any class or build that does not always swap one charm for a ring, especially now that there is extra charm slots granted by an earcuff?

Of course the answer is, "it depends" Which charms and rings does the owner have?
Also, more volunteer charms are coming, presumably Garnet/Greater Garnet, then perhaps Tanzanite/Greater Tanzanite, so maybe, maybe not.

I know I will be picking up at least one.

I am certainly in favor of maximum slot numbers. I think it should be closer to:

Ioun Stone (9) - Max 4 extra
Charm (8) - Max 5 extra

Why do I say that because with Ioun Stones we can get to 7 and Charms we can get to 8 today. These new slot expanders should just give us different ways to get there not improve the numbers. I am giving a benefit to IS for 2 more just because of all the new treasure enhancers.

Back is already set at 2 and Ring at 3 so those should be ok.

Ed

Endgame wrote: Putting this in the correct thread:

Question on the Charm of Glory:

Is there any class or build that does not always swap one charm for a ring, especially now that there is extra charm slots granted by an earcuff?

I won’t on my Fighter/Dwarf Fighter. CoA, CoAS, Broaching, Greater Onyx, and Enlightenment. Ok, I’d do it for a Grind build where CoA is irrelevant. .

Harlax wrote:

Endgame wrote: Putting this in the correct thread:

Question on the Charm of Glory:

Is there any class or build that does not always swap one charm for a ring, especially now that there is extra charm slots granted by an earcuff?

I won’t on my Fighter/Dwarf Fighter. CoA, CoAS, Broaching, Greater Onyx, and Enlightenment. Ok, I’d do it for a Grind build where CoA is irrelevant. .

Are you using charm bracelet, or dropping the charm bracelet for the charm earcuff? Even at 5 total charms, would you trade greater onyx for ring of the eel? On the fighters I could see keeping ice Craig until the con volunteer charm is available then moving to charm earcuff and a ring.

Charm bracelets, Earcuff of Orbits and Icecrag. Already using Ring of Eel and Ring of Frost.

Harlax wrote: Charm bracelets, Earcuff of Orbits and Icecrag. Already using Ring of Eel and Ring of Frost.

Drop icecraig, replace with arcane earcuff using charm of glory, ring of dark health, New monk ring, or ring of stamina, and dracolitch charm. Can replace dracolitch with con volunteer charm next year. Not an straight upgrade though, I'll admit.

I love the lineup atm!

Caps on stones/charms is fantastic (I don’t know if it needs expressed on token, however, as that would likely be a token guide/slot issue vs token issue)

I like the bracer flip to only 2H, with penalty negation for barbs - it avoids the ranger/monk paired wielding issue, while making an awesome 2H choice across the board.

I dig the rod changes - I think it makes it entirely useable.

All in all, I see myself picking up... 8?

Endgame wrote:

Harlax wrote: Charm bracelets, Earcuff of Orbits and Icecrag. Already using Ring of Eel and Ring of Frost.

Drop icecraig, replace with arcane earcuff using charm of glory, ring of dark health, New monk ring, or ring of stamina, and dracolitch charm. Can replace dracolitch with con volunteer charm next year. Not an straight upgrade though, I'll admit.

I’m building for myself and my son, who runs Druid or Cleric. So he gets the charm of Glory. The new arcane Earcuff and bracers aren’t in my current buy plan.

I probably won’t run Eel in E1. Water and shock don’t sound like a good combination.

Kirk Bauer wrote: OK, I revise my suggestion. Keep the Arcane items to Cabal items and don't change their slots. We'll just need a creative name for the Arcane Bracelets.

Cuff of the Cabal