TOPIC: Ultra Rare Token Ideas

jedibcg wrote:

Mike Steele wrote:

Picc wrote:

Endgame wrote: I believe this was already suggested in this thread, but giving it my own spin

Gloves of might
+3 str
+1 con
Might set item

Rounds out str and con without needing extra tokens, and pairs nicely with the boots and belt of might

Makes +1 level available in another way, and some might items are very affordable

Doesn't raise the damage cap yet comes close to Mithral gauntlets in str buff

I would be against it if only because it would become a reason to wait 2 more years before we could talk about reprinting mithral gauthlet again. At a flat +4 str I'd be ok with it since if would be functional the same.

I agree completely, it's time for a +4 ST Gauntlets again. I still think making it part of the Might set also helps people complete that set and get +1 Level.

And I think think +4 Str Might are a huge power creep. Do we have to discuss this again?

It's up to you, I guess. I think it's OK to state opinions, it's fine if you don't share it.

Huge power creep is debatable, of course. The Mithral set power was HUGE when it was released, as it was one of the main ways to survive the Smoak dungeons. And I think the Might set is pretty underpowered right now, so adding a +4 St Gauntlets to it might raise it back to where it's considered a competitive option for level increase again.

Mike Steele wrote:

jedibcg wrote:

Mike Steele wrote:

Picc wrote:

Endgame wrote: I believe this was already suggested in this thread, but giving it my own spin

Gloves of might
+3 str
+1 con
Might set item

Rounds out str and con without needing extra tokens, and pairs nicely with the boots and belt of might

Makes +1 level available in another way, and some might items are very affordable

Doesn't raise the damage cap yet comes close to Mithral gauntlets in str buff

I would be against it if only because it would become a reason to wait 2 more years before we could talk about reprinting mithral gauthlet again. At a flat +4 str I'd be ok with it since if would be functional the same.

I agree completely, it's time for a +4 ST Gauntlets again. I still think making it part of the Might set also helps people complete that set and get +1 Level.

And I think think +4 Str Might are a huge power creep. Do we have to discuss this again?

It's up to you, I guess. I think it's OK to state opinions, it's fine if you don't share it.

Huge power creep is debatable, of course. The Mithral set power was HUGE when it was released, as it was one of the main ways to survive the Smoak dungeons. And I think the Might set is pretty underpowered right now, so adding a +4 St Gauntlets to it might raise it back to where it's considered a competitive option for level increase again.

Looks like we do. The Might set Bonus is Hugely more powerful than the Mithral. Put the Might on +4 Gauntlets therefore is a Huge power creep over the Mithral Gauntlets.

jedibcg wrote:

Wade Schwendemann wrote:

jedibcg wrote: And I think think +4 Str Might are a huge power creep. Do we have to discuss this again?

I agree with Jedi. Of course we dont have to discuss this again. People are just advocating for what they want.

I think +4 Str is good enough all on it's own. It has been for quite some time, and based on the fact that people want a straight reprint, it seems to still be balanced.

I also dont think we need more might items while the ring of fateful heroism is still in print, and the eldritch set changes haven't even taken effect yet, but that may be just me.

Yes but Mike is again advocating for something he already advocated.
Not certain if you are what you are referring to as it when you say it seems to still be balanced.

I was responding to a post about the Gauntlets of Might. Just as you responded to my post, and re-advocated your position.

Might Hand Wraps : +2 hit melee, +1 damage melee, +2 Dex

It’s not +4 strength, it adds to the might options on the market, and as it’s not str specifically so I added the dex (could be con) to mimic fast fitness a bit since it doesn’t feel ur without more. 4 str means options, this is clearly a melee item. If we wanted a more generic it could be a non might 4 str. If we wanted a more ranged focused might glove we could do a +2 ranged hit, +1 ranged damage and +2 STR (or could be CON). I like these better than straight 4 str as they focus a bit.

There is another option which I have not suggested as I play sliding classes. Gloves of Wizardly Might : +2 spell damage and polymorph attack and damage. This is not the normal might type item, but I don’t think there is a caster focused +1 level set. Not sure if there needs to be either, this option would technically add to the might set, or start “Wizardly might” if tptb wanted.

Mike Steele wrote:

jedibcg wrote:

Wade Schwendemann wrote:

jedibcg wrote: And I think think +4 Str Might are a huge power creep. Do we have to discuss this again?

I agree with Jedi. Of course we dont have to discuss this again. People are just advocating for what they want.

I think +4 Str is good enough all on it's own. It has been for quite some time, and based on the fact that people want a straight reprint, it seems to still be balanced.

I also dont think we need more might items while the ring of fateful heroism is still in print, and the eldritch set changes haven't even taken effect yet, but that may be just me.

Yes but Mike is again advocating for something he already advocated.
Not certain if you are what you are referring to as it when you say it seems to still be balanced.

I was responding to a post about the Gauntlets of Might. Just as you responded to my post, and re-advocated your position.

Thanks for clearing that up..... I need an eyeroll emote.

jedibcg wrote:

Mike Steele wrote:

jedibcg wrote:

Mike Steele wrote:

Picc wrote:

Endgame wrote: I believe this was already suggested in this thread, but giving it my own spin

Gloves of might
+3 str
+1 con
Might set item

Rounds out str and con without needing extra tokens, and pairs nicely with the boots and belt of might

Makes +1 level available in another way, and some might items are very affordable

Doesn't raise the damage cap yet comes close to Mithral gauntlets in str buff

I would be against it if only because it would become a reason to wait 2 more years before we could talk about reprinting mithral gauthlet again. At a flat +4 str I'd be ok with it since if would be functional the same.

I agree completely, it's time for a +4 ST Gauntlets again. I still think making it part of the Might set also helps people complete that set and get +1 Level.

And I think think +4 Str Might are a huge power creep. Do we have to discuss this again?

It's up to you, I guess. I think it's OK to state opinions, it's fine if you don't share it.

Huge power creep is debatable, of course. The Mithral set power was HUGE when it was released, as it was one of the main ways to survive the Smoak dungeons. And I think the Might set is pretty underpowered right now, so adding a +4 St Gauntlets to it might raise it back to where it's considered a competitive option for level increase again.

Looks like we do. The Might set Bonus is Hugely more powerful than the Mithral. Put the Might on +4 Gauntlets therefore is a Huge power creep over the Mithral Gauntlets.

I respect the fact that we have different opinions about whether a +4 St Gauntlets of Might is an appropriate power level. I'm fine with letting Jeff & Co make the call, as this is just a brainstorming thread.

Mike Steele wrote:

jedibcg wrote:

Wade Schwendemann wrote:

jedibcg wrote: And I think think +4 Str Might are a huge power creep. Do we have to discuss this again?

I agree with Jedi. Of course we dont have to discuss this again. People are just advocating for what they want.

I think +4 Str is good enough all on it's own. It has been for quite some time, and based on the fact that people want a straight reprint, it seems to still be balanced.

I also dont think we need more might items while the ring of fateful heroism is still in print, and the eldritch set changes haven't even taken effect yet, but that may be just me.

Yes but Mike is again advocating for something he already advocated.
Not certain if you are what you are referring to as it when you say it seems to still be balanced.

I was responding to a post about the Gauntlets of Might. Just as you responded to my post, and re-advocated your position.

Ugh. So exhausting.

Any chance Jeff could pop in and confirm that he pays attention to who is posting what. Meaning he will notice the difference between an idea with 20 posts by the same 2 people in favor VS only 10 posts against all from different people? Then we wouldnt have to reply every time someone brings up the same idea multiple times.

kurtreznor wrote: Ugh. So exhausting.

Any chance Jeff could pop in and confirm that he pays attention to who is posting what. Meaning he will notice the difference between an idea with 20 posts by the same 2 people in favor VS only 10 posts against all from different people? Then we wouldnt have to reply every time someone brings up the same idea multiple times.

I really hope this isnt necessary.

jedibcg wrote:

Wade Schwendemann wrote:

jedibcg wrote: And I think think +4 Str Might are a huge power creep. Do we have to discuss this again?

I agree with Jedi. Of course we dont have to discuss this again. People are just advocating for what they want.

I think +4 Str is good enough all on it's own. It has been for quite some time, and based on the fact that people want a straight reprint, it seems to still be balanced.

I also dont think we need more might items while the ring of fateful heroism is still in print, and the eldritch set changes haven't even taken effect yet, but that may be just me.

Yes but Mike is again advocating for something he already advocated.
Not certain if you are what you are referring to as it when you say it seems to still be balanced.

I thought starting with I agree with Jedi was clear.

The mithral gauntlets, as already printed, are good enough that people want them reprinted. To me, this means we dont need anything else on them, such as the might set.

Wade Schwendemann wrote:

kurtreznor wrote: Ugh. So exhausting.

Any chance Jeff could pop in and confirm that he pays attention to who is posting what. Meaning he will notice the difference between an idea with 20 posts by the same 2 people in favor VS only 10 posts against all from different people? Then we wouldnt have to reply every time someone brings up the same idea multiple times.

I really hope this isnt necessary.

jedibcg wrote:

Wade Schwendemann wrote:

jedibcg wrote: And I think think +4 Str Might are a huge power creep. Do we have to discuss this again?

I agree with Jedi. Of course we dont have to discuss this again. People are just advocating for what they want.

I think +4 Str is good enough all on it's own. It has been for quite some time, and based on the fact that people want a straight reprint, it seems to still be balanced.

I also dont think we need more might items while the ring of fateful heroism is still in print, and the eldritch set changes haven't even taken effect yet, but that may be just me.

Yes but Mike is again advocating for something he already advocated.
Not certain if you are what you are referring to as it when you say it seems to still be balanced.

I thought starting with I agree with Jedi was clear.

The mithral gauntlets, as already printed, are good enough that people want them reprinted. To me, this means we dont need anything else on them, such as the might set.

I thought you were agreeing we don’t have to discuss this again....lol.

Speaking only for myself and the way I process token suggestions, the number of times a person posts an idea has absolutely no bearing on the quality of the idea. If the idea has merit, it will be considered. If anything, spamming an idea--regardless of its inherent value--is more likely to have a deleterious effect on the way that idea the poster is perceived.

macXdmg wrote: Might Hand Wraps
There is another option which I have not suggested as I play sliding classes. Gloves of Wizardly Might : +2 spell damage and polymorph attack and damage..

I like they way you are thinking, but this is too weak, compare with:

Rare: tokendb.com/token/blessed-wind-gloves/
Exalted (between Rare and UR?): tokendb.com/token/blessed-tempest-gloves/

I think +3 to spell damage and polymorph and a little something extra (+2 DEX? +1 DEX/+1 CON?) is about right for UR gloves.

I read this and was like: I bet I can show you otherwise

Druegar wrote: Speaking only for myself and the way I process token suggestions, the number of times a person posts an idea has absolutely no bearing on the quality of the idea. If the idea has merit, it will be considered.

Then you said this... pranking dreams crushed.

If anything, spamming an idea--regardless of its inherent value--is more likely to have a deleterious effect on the way that idea is perceived.

Wait... what if I spam support for ideas I secretly think are bad