TOPIC: E1 7(or 8?) Token Challenge

Wade Schwendemann wrote:

jedibcg wrote: Ranged Ranger
Keen Bow
Bot4W
SRoEC
?
CoAS
CoA
ISSN
ISGN

How worried are we about "to hit" with this build? Maybe ring of the yeti? Bracers do seem better. Or you could wear armor.....

It is currently a +6 to Hit +10 to damage (with the Bracers +8/+11). The Dex Kilt makes it +8/+11 which is actually probably a better choice. I don't know how that compares to hit vs any other characters. Screw armor.

Wouldn't bracers be +8/+12?

Either way, Dex Kilt seems good.

You are correct 8/12 vs 8/11 with the extra ac, reflex and healing the kilt seems the way to go.

jedibcg wrote: You are correct 8/12 vs 8/11 with the extra ac, reflex and healing the kilt seems the way to go.

100% agree

Ok, someone check me here

10 CoAS adds 10 hp per player (100) plus +10 to init and cant be surprised.

10 Linked shirt of healing adds +3 to each cleric and druid spell (or +6 if using LoDS)
10 cleric spells
7 druid spells
1 ranger spell

And +27 to Bard's soothe wounds x 2

Potentially
30 (or 60)
21 (or 42)
3
54

That would be 159 points of healing, if completely maximized, rather than 100, +10 init, plus immunity to surprise.

Is 59 potential points worth it, given that we are probably not going to troubador?

I don't know what the cleric and druid are using. Do we know they are planning on using LoDS? If not it cuts down that difference even more. Because I thought they were likely using 2 Eldritch for the lvl bump and then Druegar Baton (or the relic baton) and Relsa's Ring.

To me it sounds like the Charm is a better choice.

I dont know, but I assumed they were using 2 eldritch, Drues and LodS.
I honestly have no idea.

I'm fine with the charm. Was mostly interested if my math was right

I almost think the plus ten to initiative is more important than the extra healing as we really need to win initiative I feel.

I will definitely be level 5. Was just debating two eldritch or instead crown plus level enhancer.

jpotter wrote: I almost think the plus ten to initiative is more important than the extra healing as we really need to win initiative I feel.

I will definitely be level 5. Was just debating two eldritch or instead crown plus level enhancer.

2 eldritch does give +4 to heals.

Also, this is why I was considering the +2 staff of power. It would allow is 3 (or 4 if we lesser maze) uses of alertness rather than 1. I think I've been convinced otherwise, but it's still rattling around.

Without the +10, we will probably lose every initiative on NM.

jpotter wrote: I almost think the plus ten to initiative is more important than the extra healing as we really need to win initiative I feel.

I will definitely be level 5. Was just debating two eldritch or instead crown plus level enhancer.

I can loan you the Rod or the Boots of 4 Wind (if someone else doesn't borrow the boots). I also might have the legendary lute by then. It depends if I can complete my trades before the run and get it transmuted.

I will have a boots and a rod to loan out, as I dont think I have space for the Rod. Plus 3 Kilts, as I won't be wearing one of those either.

Anyone want to split -2 treasure with me for +10 Initiative in our first 2 combats? I'll drop my ISGN for a +2 Staff of Power if so, unless we feel that breaks the spirit of the challenge?
I know a couple players skipped the ISSN in the original.

EDIT: A question of strategy
SRoEC with damage reduction, or Kilt with CON for 14 HP and a couple fort saves?

Wade Schwendemann wrote: I will have a boots and a rod to loan out, as I dont think I have space for the Rod. Plus 3 Kilts, as I won't be wearing one of those either.

Anyone want to split -2 treasure with me for +10 Initiative in our first 2 combats? I'll drop my ISGN for a +2 Staff of Power if so, unless we feel that breaks the spirit of the challenge?
I know a couple players skipped the ISSN in the original.

EDIT: A question of strategy
SRoEC with damage reduction, or Kilt with CON for 14 HP and a couple fort saves?

The Con is probably a better choice because I think this is a 4 puzzle/3 combat run. That said I am using the ring, but it provides cover on 4 different elements and retribution (if I remember).

Unless you are also wielding the staff of power (instead of a focus staff) I don't think Alertness is going to be that crucial on all the combats. Again this is under the assumption that it is 3 combats. The first one will be relatively easy because it is the first combat. I honestly expect us to smash that one and take very little damage (I could be wrong).

I have boots, a rod and a kilt available for loaning out, as far as Eldritch goes.