TOPIC: HUGE NEWS about Gen Con!

Matt wrote:

lazlo_hollyfeld1985 wrote: What’s going to happen when the XP vets can’t get into a run at gen con?

Not to snark but that's also 2000 less participation tokens and assume lessened draws from treasure boxes.

Less monster bits. Less GF. That price should go back up.

Matt wrote:

lazlo_hollyfeld1985 wrote: What’s going to happen when the XP vets can’t get into a run at gen con?

Not to snark but that's also 2000 less participation tokens and assume lessened draws from treasure boxes.

Could be as many as 4000 less participation tokens if all 2000 tickets were played on Nightmare.

That does remind me that I think all my runs will be Nightmare at Gen Con so less likely to invite new folks. Usually I do a Hardcore for the new folks, but since I will be doing less runs need to get both tokens on 1 run instead of two.

jedibcg wrote:

Matt wrote:

lazlo_hollyfeld1985 wrote: What’s going to happen when the XP vets can’t get into a run at gen con?

Not to snark but that's also 2000 less participation tokens and assume lessened draws from treasure boxes.

Could be as many as 4000 less participation tokens if all 2000 tickets were played on Nightmare.

That does remind me that I think all my runs will be Nightmare at Gen Con so less likely to invite new folks. Usually I do a Hardcore for the new folks, but since I will be doing less runs need to get both tokens on 1 run instead of two.

Don’t ignore all the loot/participation tokens from the three (so far) additional conventions. That increases supply.

But there are a lot of new players, too. So that increases demand.

It’s complicated. I doubt anyone can predict

Brad Mortensen wrote:

jedibcg wrote:

Matt wrote:

lazlo_hollyfeld1985 wrote: What’s going to happen when the XP vets can’t get into a run at gen con?

Not to snark but that's also 2000 less participation tokens and assume lessened draws from treasure boxes.

Could be as many as 4000 less participation tokens if all 2000 tickets were played on Nightmare.

That does remind me that I think all my runs will be Nightmare at Gen Con so less likely to invite new folks. Usually I do a Hardcore for the new folks, but since I will be doing less runs need to get both tokens on 1 run instead of two.

Don’t ignore all the loot/participation tokens from the three (so far) additional conventions. That increases supply.

But there are a lot of new players, too. So that increases demand.

It’s complicated. I doubt anyone can predict

Yeah I am not talking demand. I am also only talking about completion tokens. The supply will be less though. The other cons don't factor into completion tokens since they get their own. I am not saying this is a good thing or a bad thing. Just a fact that their will be less total Gen Con completion tokens. Though if the Gen Con Astral will have the same completion token as the Astral at Origins I am not certain if that has been said.

EDIT: Per the Token DB there are 13 Completion tokens for 2018.
tokendb.com/?fwp_token_search=completion&fwp_pub_year=2018
Orgins could get you
Boots of Charging (UC) and Shoes of Speed (R)
Bersker Cloak (UC) and Berserker Gloves (R)
Fig of Pow Chipped Bull (UC)
Amulet of Plane Shifting (R)
Drinking Horn of Bliss (R)

Game Hole Con
IS Glass Sphere (U) and IS Glass Cube (R)
Golden Apple of Salvation (R) and Hungry Hero's Feast (U)

Pax South (back in Jan)
Roral Honey (U) and Mirror Archer's Bucker (R).

So the Gen Con tokens are still Unknown at this time.
____ ____ ____ (R)
____ of ____ ____ (R)
____ of ____ (UC)
____ of ____ (R)
____ ____ ____ (UC)

And maybe 2 more for Astral? Or they will be the two from Origins.

No, you’re right, the number of GenCon PTs will drop, but I think the total of all PTs will go up.

Brad Mortensen wrote: No, you’re right, the number of GenCon PTs will drop, but I think the total of all PTs will go up.

I agree. how many go to the trade circulation we shall see.

Not to completely change directions, but after reading Jeff's announcement and motivations, I foresee the imminent construction of a giant castle in Carbondale, and a place where everyone wears minotaur horns rather than mouse ears.

True Dungeon in a dungeon!

With the addition of Astral Journey to the Bliss will we see additional monster bits or can we expect to see four different bits like in recent years?

Ryan Gresch wrote: With the addition of Astral Journey to the Bliss will we see additional monster bits or can we expect to see four different bits like in recent years?

Good question..

Rob F wrote:

Ryan Gresch wrote: With the addition of Astral Journey to the Bliss will we see additional monster bits or can we expect to see four different bits like in recent years?

Good question..

Can't find it on my phone, but I believe Jeff said he was still considering this question, but leaning toward using 2017 treasure for MM and DAS, while using 2018 treasure for AJttB, but removing the N2 and N3 monster bits.

Wade Schwendemann wrote:

Rob F wrote:

Ryan Gresch wrote: With the addition of Astral Journey to the Bliss will we see additional monster bits or can we expect to see four different bits like in recent years?

Good question..

Can't find it on my phone, but I believe Jeff said he was still considering this question, but leaning toward using 2017 treasure for MM and DAS, while using 2018 treasure for AJttB, but removing the N2 and N3 monster bits.

That is my recollection as well.

If Jeff/TD really wants to up their game, this is the next step:


www.thevoid.com/dimensions/starwars/secretsoftheempire/

Got to do it at Disney Springs. Very cool tech, and has interaction with props, and separate rooms.
Could get a lot more content in a smaller space and less setup and tear down.