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True Raid: Thursday 9m Mustering and Planning 5 years 11 months ago #37

I'm noticing the definite lack of love for Rogues. I still think next year they should be getting something to help put them into the middle for damage.

I can do a decent elf wizard or full wizard but I won't be on par with people running w/ full legendaries

My thought was Rogue probably won't be in high demand so it is easier to fit into a group, I have a fairly optimized one so it is somewhat survivable and does +13 to hit/+20 dmg as a ranged combatant (AC around 30, saves +8/+19/+11), and setting up the dwarf fighter for crits is an important job as well! Should I go to a different class or will this be sufficient for an average character?



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True Raid: Thursday 9m Mustering and Planning 5 years 11 months ago #38

Fred Kessler wrote: I'm noticing the definite lack of love for Rogues. I still think next year they should be getting something to help put them into the middle for damage.

I can do a decent elf wizard or full wizard but I won't be on par with people running w/ full legendaries

My thought was Rogue probably won't be in high demand so it is easier to fit into a group, I have a fairly optimized one so it is somewhat survivable and does +13 to hit/+20 dmg as a ranged combatant (AC around 30, saves +8/+19/+11), and setting up the dwarf fighter for crits is an important job as well! Should I go to a different class or will this be sufficient for an average character?



Fred


If its like the Jeffagorgon, the fort and will save likely won't do anything for you - save on 20 only. If you are going ranged, I'd do whatever you can to pump up your Dex to increase your hit and reflex save. Post up your build and lets see if we can add to it.

If I get Dwarf Fighter I have a decent Wizard I can loan out. MEC and 75 hit points.
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True Raid: Thursday 9:00 PM Mustering and Planning 5 years 11 months ago #39

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True Raid: Thursday 9:00 PM Mustering and Planning 5 years 11 months ago #40

James J Krot wrote: I fear the lorigorgon, may our souls not be ravaged by her mighty gaze.


"I don't believe in the no win scenario."




"I don't like to lose."


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I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend - Faramir

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True Raid: Thursday 9:00 PM Mustering and Planning 5 years 11 months ago #41

My apologies to all, but my wife has had some pregnancy complications which will keep her in the hospital until she delivers, sometime in the next 9 weeks.

Given that, I can hardly make a trip out of town.

I did find a replacement for myself for this run, though I am not certain what class he will want to play. His name is Eric, (escher), and he may post for himself or I may circle back soon.

I wish you all the best of luck in your endeavors, and I look forward to hearing the tales of the slaying of the LoriGorgon!
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True Raid: Thursday 9:00 PM Mustering and Planning 5 years 11 months ago #42

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True Raid: Thursday 9:00 PM Mustering and Planning 5 years 11 months ago #43

Hope pregnancy goes well.

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True Raid: Thursday 9:00 PM Mustering and Planning 5 years 11 months ago #44

My rogue really won't be making much of an impact overall on damage (other than setting up other people's slides with flank). I saw we only have 1 wizard, I have a decent wizard I could do as well - please give feedback on if this is good enough to have a shot in this run. I'll post it below (I'll also post the Rogue for comparison):


Melee Attacks +3/+2 AC 14
Range Attacks +5/+5 AC 14

Spell Damage Bonus + 14

Saves Fort 15 Ref 8 Will 11

Melee Pre-Combat - +3 Stu's Handy Stein
Melee Mainhand - +3 Staff of Focus
Ranged Mainhand - +1 Sling
Ranged Off-Hand - Bottle of Bubbles
Head - Crown of Expertise
Eyes - Lenses of Clear Sight
Bead - Rain Vision
Ear 1 - Earcuff of Orbitz
Ear 2 - Icecrag Hero's Earcuff
Neck - Medallion of Mystic Mouth
Back - Cloak of Shadowskin
Back2 - n/a
Shirt - Shirt of Focus +2
Armor - Starhide Robe
Wrists - Charm Bracelets
Hands - Blessed Tempest Gloves
Ring 1 - Ring of Greater Focus
Ring 2 - Charming Ring
Ring 3 - na
Waist - Belt of Blessed Consitution
Pants - Kilt of Tavernbane
Shins - Darkguard Greeves
Feet - Boots of the South Wind
Ioun 1 - Ioun Stone Charming Cabochon
Ioun 2 - Ioun Stone Quicksilver Cube
Ioun 3 - Ioun Stone Tanzenite Cube
Ioun 4 - Ioun Stone Amethyst Ovoid
Ioun 5 - Ioun Stone Beryl Prism
Ioun 6 - Ioun Stone Flourite Cube
Ioun 7 - Ioun Stone Emerald Cube
Charm 1 - Draco-Lich Claw Charm
Charm 2 - Mad Evoker's Charm
Charm 3 - Charm of Heroism
Charm 4 - Charm of Enlightenment
Charm 5 - Kinetic Accelerator
Charm 6 -
Figurine - Figurine of Power: Pixie (reflex saves)
Slotless - Ash's Death Pouch
Slotless - Pouch of Tulz
Slotless - Rod of Seven Parts (segment 6)
Slotless - Greater Alchemist Pouch
Slotless - Lamp of the Efreeti
Slotless - Lamp of the Marid
Slotless - Greater Arcane Scroll Tube
Slotless - Teeth of Cavadar #1, #2, #3, #4
Slotless - Kvothe's Bloodless
Slotless - Greater Alchemist Pouch
Slotless - Greater Arcane Scroll Tube
Slotless - Flask of Sharing
Slotless - Horn of the Blessed Ox
Slotless - Lotus Blossom Bowls
Slotless - Quiver of Annoinment
Slotless - Minotaur Horn of Alert
Slotless - Runestone Fitting Base
Slotless - Elixir of Vitality (consumed)
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Elf Wizard build
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Rogue build
truedungeon.com/forum?view=topic&catid=569&id=245490#287189

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True Raid: Thursday 9:00 PM Mustering and Planning 5 years 11 months ago #45

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Fred Kessler wrote: My rogue really won't be making much of an impact overall on damage (other than setting up other people's slides with flank). I saw we only have 1 wizard, I have a decent wizard I could do as well - please give feedback on if this is good enough to have a shot in this run. I'll post it below (I'll also post the Rogue for comparison):


Melee Attacks +3/+2 AC 14
Range Attacks +5/+5 AC 14

Spell Damage Bonus + 14

Saves Fort 15 Ref 8 Will 11

Melee Pre-Combat - +3 Stu's Handy Stein
Melee Mainhand - +3 Staff of Focus
Ranged Mainhand - +1 Sling
Ranged Off-Hand - Bottle of Bubbles
Head - Crown of Expertise
Eyes - Lenses of Clear Sight
Bead - Rain Vision
Ear 1 - Earcuff of Orbitz
Ear 2 - Icecrag Hero's Earcuff
Neck - Medallion of Mystic Mouth
Back - Cloak of Shadowskin
Back2 - n/a
Shirt - Shirt of Focus +2
Armor - Starhide Robe
Wrists - Charm Bracelets
Hands - Blessed Tempest Gloves
Ring 1 - Ring of Greater Focus
Ring 2 - Charming Ring
Ring 3 - na
Waist - Belt of Blessed Consitution
Pants - Kilt of Tavernbane
Shins - Darkguard Greeves
Feet - Boots of the South Wind
Ioun 1 - Ioun Stone Charming Cabochon
Ioun 2 - Ioun Stone Quicksilver Cube
Ioun 3 - Ioun Stone Tanzenite Cube
Ioun 4 - Ioun Stone Amethyst Ovoid
Ioun 5 - Ioun Stone Beryl Prism
Ioun 6 - Ioun Stone Flourite Cube
Ioun 7 - Ioun Stone Emerald Cube
Charm 1 - Draco-Lich Claw Charm
Charm 2 - Mad Evoker's Charm
Charm 3 - Charm of Heroism
Charm 4 - Charm of Enlightenment
Charm 5 - Kinetic Accelerator
Charm 6 -
Figurine - Figurine of Power: Pixie (reflex saves)
Slotless - Ash's Death Pouch
Slotless - Pouch of Tulz
Slotless - Rod of Seven Parts (segment 6)
Slotless - Greater Alchemist Pouch
Slotless - Lamp of the Efreeti
Slotless - Lamp of the Marid
Slotless - Greater Arcane Scroll Tube
Slotless - Teeth of Cavadar #1, #2, #3, #4
Slotless - Kvothe's Bloodless
Slotless - Greater Alchemist Pouch
Slotless - Greater Arcane Scroll Tube
Slotless - Flask of Sharing
Slotless - Horn of the Blessed Ox
Slotless - Lotus Blossom Bowls
Slotless - Quiver of Annoinment
Slotless - Minotaur Horn of Alert
Slotless - Runestone Fitting Base
Slotless - Elixir of Vitality (consumed)


Trying to figure out why you are using a ring of focus with a rogue much less a medallion of mystic mouth. I would swap out some of your wizard tokens and see what you can do. Others may be able to help.

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True Raid: Thursday 9:00 PM Mustering and Planning 5 years 11 months ago #46

I think that is his Wizard build.

But you should try to work in a Charm of Synergy

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Let them trap us. We have our swords. - Elric of Melnibone.

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I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend - Faramir

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True Raid: Thursday 9:00 PM Mustering and Planning 5 years 11 months ago #47

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I can also loan a Shirt of Blessed Strength or Shirt of the Underdark and I am pretty sure someone will loan you a charm of synergy.

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True Raid: Thursday 9:00 PM Mustering and Planning 5 years 11 months ago #48

James J Krot wrote: I can also loan a Shirt of Blessed Strength or Shirt of the Underdark and I am pretty sure someone will loan you a charm of synergy.


Assuming this is the wizard build I would stay with the shirt of focus.
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