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Level 10 idea 1 month 1 week ago #13

But would the value of the rod then drop?
People have paid 4K+ For them.
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Level 10 idea 1 month 1 week ago #14

The Falcon wrote: But would the value of the rod then drop?
People have paid 4K+ For them.


Just speaking for myself, the ability to use premium classes was my least favorite part of the Rod, behind the stat bonuses and the slotless Eldritch bonuses (except for when the Bard could get a missing treasure stamp - then the premium classes was awesome!).

I could be wrong, but I don't think it was ever said that there wouldn't be other ways to get access to premium classes.

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Level 10 idea 1 month 1 week ago #15

Endgame wrote: Permanent access to prestige classes would be fantastic.


As I say every time this gets brought up:

There is a way to get access to the RoSP classes. The fact that some people don't prefer to get access using that way does not mean that creating an alternative way should be on the table.

I do not think we convey the benefits of a token onto people who haven't equipped that token (unless that's part of the function of the token like Flask of Sharing).

Although I'd be OK with a 1/6 shot at being able to play a prestige class could be an occasional X of Wonder effect - as that token has precedent of granting other token effects as part of its effect.

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Level 10 idea 1 month 1 week ago #16

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A new badge holder could be one part. 8th level says “Elite.” 10th could say “Epic.”
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Harlax wrote: A new badge holder could be one part. 8th level says “Elite.” 10th could say “Epic.”


Ugh... no. I don't use a Badge Holder because the things are too uncomfortable around my neck. And I'd like to think 15+years of devotion to TD gets someone something better than a Badge Holder.
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Level 10 idea 1 month 1 week ago #18

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Endgame wrote: Permanent access to prestige classes would be fantastic.


As I say every time this gets brought up:

There is a way to get access to the RoSP classes. The fact that some people don't prefer to get access using that way does not mean that creating an alternative way should be on the table.

I do not think we convey the benefits of a token onto people who haven't equipped that token (unless that's part of the function of the token like Flask of Sharing).

Although I'd be OK with a 1/6 shot at being able to play a prestige class could be an occasional X of Wonder effect - as that token has precedent of granting other token effects as part of its effect.


With less than 200 in circulation, at some point it will not be possible to acquire a Ro7P - the owners will either not be wiling to part with them, or they will become unavailable (ex: thrown out when the owner dies).

That said, there is no reason it can't be on a level 10 token -
"Prestigious Token". Slotless. Owner may play any prestige class.

Now, you might say that this is already on a token, but really we have tons of precedent of different tokens conferring the same effect. Just look at the number of +str items out there.

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Level 10 idea 1 month 1 week ago #19

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Mike Steele wrote:

The Falcon wrote:

Endgame wrote: Permanent access to prestige classes would be fantastic.

Maybe, but only if you already own
A Rod7.


I wouldn't recommend a 10th Level benefit that was dependent on having anything else required to activate it.


I like this idea, but I would limit it to once per year same as the rods. Basically show up at checkin, claim a class voucher, use as you would any other voucher.
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Level 10 idea 1 month 1 week ago #20

Picc wrote:

Mike Steele wrote:

The Falcon wrote:

Endgame wrote: Permanent access to prestige classes would be fantastic.

Maybe, but only if you already own
A Rod7.


I wouldn't recommend a 10th Level benefit that was dependent on having anything else required to activate it.


I like this idea, but I would limit it to once per year same as the rods. Basically show up at checkin, claim a class voucher, use as you would any other voucher.


That seems reasonable. You could get one voucher per year for a subclass from a Ro7P and one voucher per year for being 10th Level. Someone with a Rod and that is 10th Level would get two vouchers per year.

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Ro-gan wrote:

Harlax wrote: A new badge holder could be one part. 8th level says “Elite.” 10th could say “Epic.”


Ugh... no. I don't use a Badge Holder because the things are too uncomfortable around my neck. And I'd like to think 15+years of devotion to TD gets someone something better than a Badge Holder.


I wasn’t suggesting it would be the only thing, just one of the things.
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Let them trap us. We have our swords. - Elric of Melnibone.

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Level 10 idea 1 month 1 week ago #22

Mike Steele wrote:

Picc wrote:

Mike Steele wrote:

The Falcon wrote:

Endgame wrote: Permanent access to prestige classes would be fantastic.

Maybe, but only if you already own
A Rod7.


I wouldn't recommend a 10th Level benefit that was dependent on having anything else required to activate it.


I like this idea, but I would limit it to once per year same as the rods. Basically show up at checkin, claim a class voucher, use as you would any other voucher.


That seems reasonable. You could get one voucher per year for a subclass from a Ro7P and one voucher per year for being 10th Level. Someone with a Rod and that is 10th Level would get two vouchers per year.


If we went with my idea of an RFI chip on a token or medallion, maybe one year it would unlock prestige classes, and another year have something different.

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Level 10 idea 1 month 1 week ago #23

Ok so you can play the Alternative
Classes once per year, and plus 1 TT Pulls.
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Level 10 idea 1 month 1 week ago #24

Alternative class once per year....+1 treasure pull....+5 hp to every party member under player level 5.
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