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Deciphering the Relic Fragment Riddle 1 year 4 days ago #349

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I am ignoring the dots at this time, I am still wondering why it is Gordon Jump though. I haven't found anything in the tokendb. There are no good anagram's of his name that make sense. (I do like Mr. Jog Pound though).
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Deciphering the Relic Fragment Riddle 1 year 4 days ago #350

jedibcg wrote: I am ignoring the dots at this time, I am still wondering why it is Gordon Jump though. I haven't found anything in the tokendb. There are no good anagram's of his name that make sense. (I do like Mr. Jog Pound though).

Which one is Gordon Jump again?

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lower right or number 9.
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Deciphering the Relic Fragment Riddle 1 year 4 days ago #352

jedibcg wrote: lower right or number 9.


Ok, so also the one without a dot on his eye. I know nothing about him... To the Google machine!

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Deciphering the Relic Fragment Riddle 1 year 4 days ago #353

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Cliff wrote:

Krym wrote:

Mike Steele wrote:

Braxton wrote: Have you guys considered that the teal pixels in the images should be ignored, because teal means "I'm not serious" to Druegar? Maybe he's trolling you with fake clues.


Or maybe the things with teal pixels should be ignored, and only things without teal pixels are the clues.


I think all the actors in the pic had a teal dot. I feel like the only real clue was the Disneyland fireworks gif indicating we need to be alert for something tomorrow. The hint leading to a picture with teal dots was just for fun.

That and the scrambled letters spelling Druegar Die probably hints at what the relic is for as it matches the polygon portion of the riddle.


To have the image of the actors so deeply hidden on the page that the "Druegar Die" clue lead to gives me the impression it is significant in some respect. I'm still not sure that the teal dots themselves mean anything - like I mentioned before, they appear to line up too closely with attributes in the images themselves to be an accurate star map or keyhole code.

When looking at the dots overlaid on the images, I can't help but notice that all the images except Gordon Jump have a dot in their eye (or very close in the case of the top middle image). Does this relate to "special sight" from the relic poem?

Other than that, I see little significance in the teal dots.


Surely the headshots could have been positioned so a pre-existing pattern of dots overlayed the eyes, no?

That could be - however to me there are too many pixles that align with edges for it to be done. I have highlighted in red some of the most obvious cases that I see. That means that around 50% of the pixles align with some intersection or significant line in the images which to me means they were placed on the image rather than an overlay.

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Deciphering the Relic Fragment Riddle 1 year 4 days ago #354

This might just be muddying the waters, but every time I look at the picture grid I think of those little slide puzzle things where you rearrange the tiles to form something else. Maybe this is one of those, and Mr. Jump is the blank space because he is not part of the Clue?

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Deciphering the Relic Fragment Riddle 1 year 4 days ago #355

Cliff wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Cliff wrote:

Krym wrote:

Mike Steele wrote:

Braxton wrote: Have you guys considered that the teal pixels in the images should be ignored, because teal means "I'm not serious" to Druegar? Maybe he's trolling you with fake clues.


Or maybe the things with teal pixels should be ignored, and only things without teal pixels are the clues.


I think all the actors in the pic had a teal dot. I feel like the only real clue was the Disneyland fireworks gif indicating we need to be alert for something tomorrow. The hint leading to a picture with teal dots was just for fun.

That and the scrambled letters spelling Druegar Die probably hints at what the relic is for as it matches the polygon portion of the riddle.


To have the image of the actors so deeply hidden on the page that the "Druegar Die" clue lead to gives me the impression it is significant in some respect. I'm still not sure that the teal dots themselves mean anything - like I mentioned before, they appear to line up too closely with attributes in the images themselves to be an accurate star map or keyhole code.

When looking at the dots overlaid on the images, I can't help but notice that all the images except Gordon Jump have a dot in their eye (or very close in the case of the top middle image). Does this relate to "special sight" from the relic poem?

Other than that, I see little significance in the teal dots.


Surely the headshots could have been positioned so a pre-existing pattern of dots overlayed the eyes, no?

That could be - however to me there are too many pixles that align with edges for it to be done. I have highlighted in red some of the most obvious cases that I see. That means that around 50% of the pixles align with some intersection or significant line in the images which to me means they were placed on the image rather than an overlay.

Connect the dots? maybe it makes a picture?
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Deciphering the Relic Fragment Riddle 1 year 4 days ago #356

lazlo_hollyfeld1985 wrote:

Cliff wrote: That could be - however to me there are too many pixles that align with edges for it to be done. I have highlighted in red some of the most obvious cases that I see. That means that around 50% of the pixles align with some intersection or significant line in the images which to me means they were placed on the image rather than an overlay.

Connect the dots? maybe it makes a picture?

I spent a bunch of time connecting the dots, and it didn't really turn into anything. If we removed the edge dots, we get a different set to try to connect, but the primary problem is identifying which dots connect to each other.

See this post for my attempt:

truedungeon.com/forum?view=topic&defaultmenu=141&catid=602&id=249708&start=312#342223

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Deciphering the Relic Fragment Riddle 1 year 4 days ago #357

Maybe if we overlap all 9 of the pictures and look at the dots grouped that way, that would make a difference?

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Deciphering the Relic Fragment Riddle 1 year 4 days ago #358

4 images have the a dot on the left eye, 4 images have a dot on the right eye.

The images with the dot on the right eye are on the left side or in the center. The reverse is true for the images with the dot on the left eye.

Not sure it helps...

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Deciphering the Relic Fragment Riddle 1 year 4 days ago #359

Just some random thoughts...

DRUEGAR DIE... is just missing DEATH. Of the 9 stars shown in the image, Madeline Kahn, Lesley Ann Warren, and Eileen Brennan are dead (as of today). Michael McKean is still alive too.

As for the photos:
Martin Mull -- not sure where this photo is from. It is probably from the 80's.
Madeline Kahn from the movie High Anxiety (1977).
Howard Hesseman from Police Academy 2 (1985).
Colleen Camp -- looks like a publicity photo from the 90's.
Tim Curry from The Three Musketeers (1993).
Lesley Ann Warren from Cinderella (1965).
Christopher Lloyd from Star Trek III: The Search for Spock (1984).
Eileen Brennan from The Last Picture Show (1971)
Gordon Jump from the Partridge Family episode The Strike-Out King (1973) (anyone else actually track that down???)

The original clue mentioned "three stars bright" -- The Three Musketeers, Star Trek 3, and maybe Strike-Out King???

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Deciphering the Relic Fragment Riddle 1 year 4 days ago #360

Any try counting the dots per square and assigning a letter and seeing if it’s another word scrambler?

Going from left to right and top to bottom.

Dots Letter
2 B
12 L
5 E
9 I
15 O
16 P
3 C
7 G
1 A

Feel free to double check my dot counting.
I could not unscramble a 9 letter word, but it may be a compound like DruegarDie.
Most words have vowels, so I find it a little too coincidental that the dots in several squares line up to several vowels.

As beertram mentioned Death maybe two words created from using dot/letters of people who are dead for one word and those dots/letters of those alive for the other word. Or just removing letters associated to people who are dead now or died in clue movie?

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