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Relic recipe fragment 5 months 3 weeks ago #85

lazlo_hollyfeld1985 wrote: Last year charms
Of transmorph. A uncommon.

This years recipes...uncommons ( less to collect)


Yeah... those conditions are making me curb my expectations.

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Relic recipe fragment 5 months 3 weeks ago #86

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Rob F wrote:

Mike Steele wrote:

jedibcg wrote:

Arcanist Kolixela wrote: It is totally possible that additional fragments may be released at other conventions over the year

That is something we have speculated on. Definitely possible but it does mean more work becuase you would need different mixes for each con.


I'm guessing there won't be different ones at different conventions, based on the fact that the same Transmorph tokens were released at all the conventions, and because these six form a completed rectangle. Just a guess though. :)


The six form a rectangle but the pic of the Fragment shown on the TokenDB is different from the rest. So maybe there's more.

the one in the tokendb is not an actual token.
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Relic recipe fragment 5 months 3 weeks ago #87

jedibcg wrote:

Rob F wrote:

Mike Steele wrote:

jedibcg wrote:

Arcanist Kolixela wrote: It is totally possible that additional fragments may be released at other conventions over the year

That is something we have speculated on. Definitely possible but it does mean more work becuase you would need different mixes for each con.


I'm guessing there won't be different ones at different conventions, based on the fact that the same Transmorph tokens were released at all the conventions, and because these six form a completed rectangle. Just a guess though. :)


The six form a rectangle but the pic of the Fragment shown on the TokenDB is different from the rest. So maybe there's more.

the one in the tokendb is not an actual token.

Are you sure? The words "not an actual token" could be an elaborate ruse.

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Relic recipe fragment 5 months 3 weeks ago #88

Jeff321 wrote:

jedibcg wrote: I put the together using Justice’s wonder starting work with the 4 and I now think there are only 6 as they do seem to fit together nicely, imo.


Agreed I did the same as him. The 6 pieces form a nice rectangle.

See attachment


Since we now have a good look at all of the "possible" relic fragments should we come to a consensus with labeling these so we can making communicating trades easier?

using Jeff321's photo with all combined we can understand their configuration.




My question is should we try to come up with a agreed upon symbolism for each token or given that we have their configuration go with a numerical clockwise or left to right - upper lower method.

I will preface this by saying I am all in for a named method. There are many who see their own symbology like a rorschach test. I would hate to see much time spent deliberating the nuance of the image on the token and how it makes us feel versus quickly labeling the tokens for identification. I feel this method can be successful if a consensus can be reached quickly and adopted just as such.

other ideas

Numerical Method 1 - Clockwise

Given the image above we could do a clockwise numbering starting in the Upper left corner

example:

123
654

Numerical Method 2 - Hollywood Squares

using a upper row / lower row we can move left to right. Starting in the upper row left hand corner (UL)

UL - UM - UR = 1 - 2 - 3
LL - LM - LR = 4 - 5 - 6


I would like to hear your thoughts so we can get to trading!

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Relic recipe fragment 5 months 3 weeks ago #89

jedibcg wrote:

Rob F wrote:

Mike Steele wrote:

jedibcg wrote:

Arcanist Kolixela wrote: It is totally possible that additional fragments may be released at other conventions over the year

That is something we have speculated on. Definitely possible but it does mean more work becuase you would need different mixes for each con.


I'm guessing there won't be different ones at different conventions, based on the fact that the same Transmorph tokens were released at all the conventions, and because these six form a completed rectangle. Just a guess though. :)


The six form a rectangle but the pic of the Fragment shown on the TokenDB is different from the rest. So maybe there's more.

the one in the tokendb is not an actual token.



Though the image does look like assembled oblique view of all the fragments upon taking a second look

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Relic recipe fragment 5 months 3 weeks ago #90

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For ease of reference based on the previous discussion.

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Relic recipe fragment 5 months 3 weeks ago #91

Here's my guess, probably completely wrong. References to the clues below.

At Gen Con [1], we can turn in the 6 fragments [2] for a "Completed Relic Recipe" token. Then we can look up that one in TDB [3] to see the actual recipe. It will require some trade goods [4] PLUS the "Completed Relic Recipe" [5]. We will bring them somewhere out front either in the storyscape, or coaching [6]. It will make a Relic Eyes-slot token [7].


[1] "When days are long and three stars bright" -- Gen Con has the longest dungeon schedules and also has 3 dungeons in their full production. "To eldest place before the fall" -- oldest convention, also it's before autumn. I suspect that these references were mostly so that we'd know it would NOT be available at Origins.

[2] See other posts showing the 6 fragments form a complete rectangle.

[3] The fragments have a TDB link so makes sense that the completed/restored version would also.

[4] "A relic forged from goods of trade" and "So gather now your goods abound".

[5] If one set of fragments unlocks the recipe for everyone, then why collect them? It makes more sense to me that you would need one set of the fragments per each final Relic token you want to make.

[6] "bring them where the start be found" -- Most tokens that say "start" refer to coaching. Could just be a hint that it's NOT inside the dungeon though.

[7] Druegar's forum clue AND the poem both reference "sight". Also there is no Relic Eyes-slot token yet, so that slot would have been a good candidate for something like this.


Other notes:

"fractured by a hand of bronze" -- Not sure what hand of bronze refers to. Any ideas?

"The Dark Knight" reference = Batman? His goggles as previously mentioned?? Don't know.

"myst’ry" -- Can Myst be anything other than the computer game? Unfortunately I never played it. After some googling I found that there are characters in the sequels that are known for wearing goggles. That certainly might be a stretch too far, but just throwing it out there.
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Relic recipe fragment 5 months 3 weeks ago #92

I’m starting to doubt you need a “complete” set. That would imply they’re unique tokens. And, if they were, they’d have different names, like the Orbs, Teeth, and last year’s Charms do. They wouldn’t just have different art, would they? That feels like it would break one of the commandments of TD: tokens are unique or not based only on their name.
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Relic recipe fragment 5 months 3 weeks ago #93

Picc wrote: For ease of reference based on the previous discussion.


Like what you have here but i think the numbers should keep going in clockwise order. So swap numbers 4 and 6.
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Relic recipe fragment 5 months 3 weeks ago #94

I like the state naming convention

I also believe it will be an entire TD season before they are redeemable due to
Fairness to everyone having an opportunity to pull at every Con. We are all well aware of the stink that will be raised by someone who only attends 1 Con.
Also TD would have to have different treasure mixes for different Con’s and that idea has already been discussed too throughly
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Relic recipe fragment 5 months 3 weeks ago #95

Hey guys, there is a New Moon during GenCon. Dark Knight could refer to that?

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Relic recipe fragment 5 months 3 weeks ago #96

Alternate potential reading of "bring them where the start be found"... maybe we need to take them to the Hyatt Ballroom where TD first ran?

Seems unlikely that Jeff would staff a volunteer over there just for this, but maybe?

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