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TRUE HORDE Signup 4 years 11 months ago #61

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#1 - ... Part of what goes with that is the potential for class selection given that you are early.


Absolutely not - this was never stated as a benefit by Jeff, or anyone else involved with TD.

At no point is "when you bought the ticket" a factor in resolving class disputes for normal TD runs.

The GT runs are somewhat in that vein, but not relevant to this note as:
A. GT run organization is done at Jeff's request.
B. The mechanics of how that works are clear in advance and consistent from year to year, allowing people to plan.

GT runs are in no way precedent for bunch of forumites nominating themselves to be the people in charge of who gets to play what class, full stop.

If they were, I could post in the forums: "I bought 3 tickets to the 1:20 Saturday beneath castle Altus, and will be playing Ranger, Druid, and Monk." And somehow expecting this to influence what happens in the coaching room for that run.

#2 - See Henwy's post. The Friday Horde is already full, so no point in waiting to begin planning.


What is happening here isn't planning, it's speculation. We don't know how True Hoard will be organized, how classes will be selected, or anything else.

What is happening here is people calling "dibs" on stuff that they guess will be in constrained demand.

There is no justification for holding up these "dibs" claims over some other player based in communication for TD (because there has been none), or precedent on GT runs (which is a different system from what is being done here).



This whole enterprise is setting people up for hard feelings, either of the:

1. I didn't know we had to reserve classes in the middle of the work day pacific time in order to get the class we want, bummer!

2. I registered my class preference, I was first to say I wanted Ranger, I've been planning my build for months - now I learn that at the event I'll be forced to play another class, because what I said in some random forum thread is not actually how this event is being run, bummer!





I'm all for coordinating classes and teamwork ahead of time - but not before we know what classes will be available, and how potential conflicts will be resolved.

I'm strongly against further reinforcing the notion that because someone was at a computer at 3 PM Pacific time on 1/18 and made a post in a non-official forum area, somehow that has some bearing on any other players class selection.

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TRUE HORDE Signup 4 years 11 months ago #62

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Matthew Hayward wrote: I'm all for coordinating classes and teamwork ahead of time - but not before we know what classes will be available, and how potential conflicts will be resolved.

I'm strongly against further reinforcing the notion that because someone was at a computer at 3 PM Pacific time on 1/18 and made a post in a non-official forum area, somehow that has some bearing on any other players class selection.



And if Jeff doesn't provide any guidance on what classes will be available and how the potential conflicts will be resolved. You would rather just show up on site and have everyone figure it out? There is no where in this thread that says you will get to be the class that is marked. The first line in the first post is class preference. I hope everyone reads and knows what preference means. Coordination is good, preparation is good. If you don't want to partake in it don't. Same would be true of a GT or a Grind. No one says you have to go to the forums and have to sign in and post anything. It just generally makes your runs more manageable.
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TRUE HORDE Signup 4 years 11 months ago #63

Donald Rients wrote: Was it ever stated anywhere how the True Horde was going to work as far as Character Class selection?


No.

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TRUE HORDE Signup 4 years 11 months ago #64

jedibcg wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote: I'm all for coordinating classes and teamwork ahead of time - but not before we know what classes will be available, and how potential conflicts will be resolved.

I'm strongly against further reinforcing the notion that because someone was at a computer at 3 PM Pacific time on 1/18 and made a post in a non-official forum area, somehow that has some bearing on any other players class selection.



And if Jeff doesn't provide any guidance on what classes will be available and how the potential conflicts will be resolved. You would rather just show up on site and have everyone figure it out? There is no where in this thread that says you will get to be the class that is marked. The first line in the first post is class preference. I hope everyone reads and knows what preference means. Coordination is good, preparation is good. If you don't want to partake in it don't. Same would be true of a GT or a Grind. No one says you have to go to the forums and have to sign in and post anything. It just generally makes your runs more manageable.


This is all premature.

If there is no further guidance on class selection, then yes, by all means, as a community let's try to make some progress.

But let's not get out over our skis. There are more than 90 days until the event, and Jeff has another con to run between now and then.

Rather than setting up a bunch of expectations that we can't necessarily fulfill, let's wait till we have more information.

"The same" is obviously not true of a GT, for the reason that GT run coordination is done at TD's behest, it is an official TD process not one the community invents. Trying to analogize the two is like saying: because I was invited to my friends house for dinner on Tuesday, I may show up on Friday and help myself to food. There is no connection between how GT runs are organized and this thread.




But - I'll take your advice - I'll stop coordinating prematurely, I'll wait until we have enough information to do so sensibly, and if anyone tries to use their participation in this thread as justification for why they get to utilize a constrained resource in favor of someone who didn't, I'll simply object at that time.

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TRUE HORDE Signup 4 years 11 months ago #65

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So far Friday, looking at everyone's first choice, we have:

Barbarian 3
Bard 1
Cleric 2
Druid 3
Dwarf Fighter 2
Elf Wizard 0
Fighter 2
Monk 3
Paladin 3
Ranger 3
Rogue 2
Wizard 1
(Total 25)

Light on wizards but otherwise pretty good. If for example we had 5 monks already we might have had an issue. But being relatively balanced I think bodes well for lack of class conflicts at the event.
Classes Played: Barbarian (39 times), Monk (36), Ranger (26), Rogue (19), Cleric (15), Fighter (11), Dwarf Fighter (9), Druid (7), Paladin (7), Bard (5), Elf Wizard (2), Wizard (2)

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TRUE HORDE Signup 4 years 11 months ago #66

If we are really short wizards, and another person wishes to be the pally, I am happy to try to do wizard. I suck at memorization, but I have the cabal set, three piece eldritch, the two legionaries that help with damage. If so, I can try to get the legendary robes before the game.

Let me know how I can best help the party... my Pally is AWSOME (42 AC, lowest save a 18, other two over 20, + to hit 18, damage +15 and redoubt set (legendary plate) but wouldn't mind expanding my ability and trying elf wizard (wont ever make the skill check... just not my cup of tea)..

I can also make an ok bard, got all the ur instruments but see above about me doing the skill check...

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TRUE HORDE Signup 4 years 11 months ago #67

Is this run considered a single room, so items that are 1 per room are not the best,?

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TRUE HORDE Signup 4 years 11 months ago #68

Mongo wrote: Is this run considered a single room, so items that are 1 per room are not the best,?


We don't know. I'm not even sure that we know we will all be in the same physical room (30 people in one room can be tough to coordinate after all).

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TRUE HORDE Signup 4 years 11 months ago #69

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This is very true, though it would surprise me if we were in different physical rooms.
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TRUE HORDE Signup 4 years 11 months ago #70

It would be cool with a single combat board setup as a center creature with three spokes. Each group of 10 would slide from the end of a spoke and the center would have dividers to keep the tokens from mixing.

We could do a Mister/Misses Molecule event if the room is small enough.

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TRUE HORDE Signup 4 years 11 months ago #71

I was meaning equiping items, that are usable once per room... to see it I should trade them out for more permanent or useful items if we are not having "new rooms"

Sorry, I wasn't clear in my question in my previvious post.

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TRUE HORDE Signup 4 years 11 months ago #72

Mongo wrote: I was meaning equiping items, that are usable once per room... to see it I should trade them out for more permanent or useful items if we are not having "new rooms"

Sorry, I wasn't clear in my question in my previvious post.


I got what you were asking.

Sounds like there will be a few smaller creatures maybe but Jeff would need to answer that one.

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