TOPIC: 2015 Treasure Chip Market

Dennis Burdick wrote:

Kirk Bauer wrote:

joshua baessler wrote: Side question: What does happen to all of the tokens that are sent in for transmutes?

I haven't seen any official answer on this very good question. He definitely re-uses yearless tokens like trade goods. My guess is that the factory is able to strip the coating/label and re-use old tokens.

A few years ago, at a True Dungeon trade meet in Carbondale, someone asked Jeff that question. He replied that Trade tokens were recycled. Otherwise, the remainder were sent to the landfill. Jeff's reply seemed, matter of fact and sincere. He added that it would be to expensive to recycle all the chips.

It's too bad a lot of them couldn't just be tossed into treasure boxes, it might save him a lot of money from having to buy new treasure tokens for the boxes each year.

Dennis Burdick wrote:

Kirk Bauer wrote:

joshua baessler wrote: Side question: What does happen to all of the tokens that are sent in for transmutes?

I haven't seen any official answer on this very good question. He definitely re-uses yearless tokens like trade goods. My guess is that the factory is able to strip the coating/label and re-use old tokens.

A few years ago, at a True Dungeon trade meet in Carbondale, someone asked Jeff that question. He replied that Trade tokens were recycled. Otherwise, the remainder were sent to the landfill. Jeff's reply seemed, matter of fact and sincere. He added that it would be to expensive to recycle all the chips.

I'd like to announce I'm moving to Carbondale, to pursue exciting opportunities in the sanitation industry.

Lol dumpster diving ftw I'm so down.

Dennis Burdick wrote:

Kirk Bauer wrote:

joshua baessler wrote: Side question: What does happen to all of the tokens that are sent in for transmutes?

I haven't seen any official answer on this very good question. He definitely re-uses yearless tokens like trade goods. My guess is that the factory is able to strip the coating/label and re-use old tokens.

A few years ago, at a True Dungeon trade meet in Carbondale, someone asked Jeff that question. He replied that Trade tokens were recycled. Otherwise, the remainder were sent to the landfill. Jeff's reply seemed, matter of fact and sincere. He added that it would be to expensive to recycle all the chips.

I believe I was that that trade and he also said something to the effect that if we could figure out what landfill they were in and wanted to go dig them up that they would still be valid tokens (assuming they were still in decent condition).

jedibcg wrote:

Dennis Burdick wrote:

Kirk Bauer wrote:

joshua baessler wrote: Side question: What does happen to all of the tokens that are sent in for transmutes?

I haven't seen any official answer on this very good question. He definitely re-uses yearless tokens like trade goods. My guess is that the factory is able to strip the coating/label and re-use old tokens.

A few years ago, at a True Dungeon trade meet in Carbondale, someone asked Jeff that question. He replied that Trade tokens were recycled. Otherwise, the remainder were sent to the landfill. Jeff's reply seemed, matter of fact and sincere. He added that it would be to expensive to recycle all the chips.

I believe I was that that trade and he also said something to the effect that if we could figure out what landfill they were in and wanted to go dig them up that they would still be valid tokens (assuming they were still in decent condition).

Now that is almost too tempting to resist. Anyone got some a shovel and some free time?

If I lived closer I would be trying to triangulate the location right now lol. If anyone does find it and wants a digging assistant I'd be willing to fly out for a percentage of the booty

I wonder if ingredients like Wish Rings, Rod Segments, GP, and Ultra-Rares made it into that landfill also.

Alvin Oliver wrote:

Mike Steele wrote: Yep, the average Rare won't be $3, and the average Uncommon isn't $1. And the more treasure token draws there are, the lower the monster ingredient token values will be. 2013 is an exception since there were far fewer monster ingredient tokens drawn, but I'd guess that monster ingredient tokens will continue to drop in value year by year.

I agree that monster bits will drop in value. Before it was know about the good box (2013) we pulled Thursday all from the monster bits box and got 14 sets of bits. This last year since there was only one mix we ended up with 25 monster bit sets with about the same amount of pulls. I expect we will see 20-25 sets (80-100 bits) per year with around 400 pulls.

Out of curiosity, did you get any special pulls out of those 400 pulls in 2014?

Yesterday's data:

• Volume: 40 tokens
• Min price paid: $2.78
• Max price paid: $4.17

	Open	Change	Final
Buy price:	$3.09	-$0.18	$2.91
Sell price:	$4.64	-$0.26	$4.38

After processing yesterday's transactions, I realized I should be offering people the ability to place limit orders here - this will likely discover the "Correct" price much faster than me randomly walking up and down.

It will also allow me to match up potential buyers and sellers who might otherwise not connect because they weren't both in the forums to see their desired prices hit on some day.

So, feel free to PM me with your limit orders, as described here:

• Limit order: If the current prices are not appealing, but there is some price at which you would like to buy or sell, PM me with whether you want to buy or sell, the price you want, and the desired number of treasure chips at that price. If the market ever reaches the levels you have selected, I will process your order. For example, if you would like to:
  • Buy 100 Treasure chips at $0.99 each.
  • Sell 10 treasure chips at $5.00
  • Sell 60 treasure chips at $6.99
  You could send me these preferences in a limit order, and if the market ever reaches these prices, your sell/buy would be automatically acted on (see "Details" in the first note about actual settlement of funds in July and chips in August).

quip wrote:

Alvin Oliver wrote:

Mike Steele wrote: Yep, the average Rare won't be $3, and the average Uncommon isn't $1. And the more treasure token draws there are, the lower the monster ingredient token values will be. 2013 is an exception since there were far fewer monster ingredient tokens drawn, but I'd guess that monster ingredient tokens will continue to drop in value year by year.

I agree that monster bits will drop in value. Before it was know about the good box (2013) we pulled Thursday all from the monster bits box and got 14 sets of bits. This last year since there was only one mix we ended up with 25 monster bit sets with about the same amount of pulls. I expect we will see 20-25 sets (80-100 bits) per year with around 400 pulls.

Out of curiosity, did you get any special pulls out of those 400 pulls in 2014?

Nope unless you count the holy symbol uncommon from a few years back

My group did about 120 pulls this year. Think we hit a special but it was just a nightmare completion token.