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SUPER FINAL Token Images - ULTRA RARE 5 years 7 months ago #49

How about the Lenses read "+2 to healing spells & may allocate your spell/scroll healing total between two targets."
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SUPER FINAL Token Images - ULTRA RARE 5 years 7 months ago #50

Please don't do the melee Ioun Stone. Melee classes are getting +4/+6 str added to our builds already this year.

I would suggest:
a) an upgraded Charm of Rampage (+4 with two-handed weapons)
b) Ioun Stone that adds to Ranged damage (missile and spell)
c) back to the original off-hand item
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SUPER FINAL Token Images - ULTRA RARE 5 years 7 months ago #51

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Arnold wrote: Yeah. this last minute change to an even split on LoDS makes it seem like another big step back. Jeff, hopefully you see fit to remove the parentheses.

Also want to agree with Wade that the Ioun Stone should help ranged damage. We already have Ring of Frost which is functionally the same as this new Ioun Stone. Padding ranged damage will help with build diversity and encourage more players to view Ranged Combat as a viable option.


Honestly I dont feel like ranged is at much of a disadvantage anymore at all. We also need to be careful boosting it since the crazy damage wheel on IOs now was based on there not being a lot of ranged boosters.


Io damage wheel was based on competing with mighty bows.
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SUPER FINAL Token Images - ULTRA RARE 5 years 7 months ago #52

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Picc wrote:

Arnold wrote: Yeah. this last minute change to an even split on LoDS makes it seem like another big step back. Jeff, hopefully you see fit to remove the parentheses.

Also want to agree with Wade that the Ioun Stone should help ranged damage. We already have Ring of Frost which is functionally the same as this new Ioun Stone. Padding ranged damage will help with build diversity and encourage more players to view Ranged Combat as a viable option.


Honestly I dont feel like ranged is at much of a disadvantage anymore at all. We also need to be careful boosting it since the crazy damage wheel on IOs now was based on there not being a lot of ranged boosters.


Io damage wheel was based on competing with mighty bows.


Either way it's very high, and grows with every ranged enhancer. It might even be desirable to have it do so depending on how high the damage for thors can be pushed. I just dont think either should get to far ahead of the other.
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SUPER FINAL Token Images - ULTRA RARE 5 years 7 months ago #53

Is it too late to lobby for a new UR?


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SUPER FINAL Token Images - ULTRA RARE 5 years 7 months ago #54

I'm not going to re-type my rant about Fluorite Cube here.

But printing a melee damage boosting IS is just twisting the knife IMO.

Please move it back to offhand.
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SUPER FINAL Token Images - ULTRA RARE 5 years 7 months ago #55

JACKOFTRADZE wrote: Is it too late to lobby for a new UR?



ROFL. I'm for it!!!
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SUPER FINAL Token Images - ULTRA RARE 5 years 7 months ago #56

Cary Kelly wrote: I guess I hadn't realized this about the Lenses until the addition here of (round up).

I had assumed you would split the healing between 2 targets as you saw fit (say you heal 15 points - could give one person 8 and the other 7 --- or one person 10 and the other 5).

So I guess with the new wording - it has to be half and half? I liked the idea of splitting the healing as needed to make up for the overall loss of healing total as a player that is often the only healer of note in my group.


Good catch, I don't like that change either, it makes even less powerful than I'd thought. I think the caster should be able to divide the healing however they want between the two parties. Making it be a 50/50 split is needlessly restricting.
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SUPER FINAL Token Images - ULTRA RARE 5 years 7 months ago #57

James J Krot wrote:

Wade Schwendemann wrote: I really hope LoDS isnt a 50/50 split.

I convinced myself being able to split as I see fit was alright, and not as bad a nerf as others thought it was, since there was as always an uneven amount of healing needed.

This is significantly worse.


I took it as split it as you see fit.


But - why would you be rounding if you could split it anyway you want?
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SUPER FINAL Token Images - ULTRA RARE 5 years 7 months ago #58

Mike Steele wrote:

James J Krot wrote:

Wade Schwendemann wrote: I really hope LoDS isnt a 50/50 split.

I convinced myself being able to split as I see fit was alright, and not as bad a nerf as others thought it was, since there was as always an uneven amount of healing needed.

This is significantly worse.


I took it as split it as you see fit.


But - why would you be rounding if you could split it anyway you want?


Previous versions did not have the rounding wording.
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SUPER FINAL Token Images - ULTRA RARE 5 years 7 months ago #59

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Mike Steele wrote:

James J Krot wrote:

Wade Schwendemann wrote: I really hope LoDS isnt a 50/50 split.

I convinced myself being able to split as I see fit was alright, and not as bad a nerf as others thought it was, since there was as always an uneven amount of healing needed.

This is significantly worse.


I took it as split it as you see fit.


But - why would you be rounding if you could split it anyway you want?


I guess if you have odd healing & you want to split it 50/50 rounding up provides a small bonus?
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SUPER FINAL Token Images - ULTRA RARE 5 years 7 months ago #60

Ioun Stone seems too good, too much power creep.

Hat of the Hellway is by far the worst UR in the set. I don’t think it needs the saves penalty.

I hope the lenses can split however desired, in which case they don’t need the rounding disclaimer.
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