TOPIC: 2019 Ultra Rare Token Images!

Kirk Bauer wrote:

Picc wrote:

Kirk Bauer wrote: For everybody who wanted Gregor's Tome to auto-pass skill tests so you could play memorization classes: you can do that now. It really isn't a big deal to fail some skill tests in my opinion. I have a horrible memory but I still play them from time to time.

So your argument is suck it up because I do?

For some people the possibility of failing a test in public is a big enough deal to turn them off the class and the game entirely.

Yes, what Ed said. If you are nervous to attempt the skill test don't do it at all. If you just worry about getting it wrong but don't mind trying then try and don't sweat it.

I appreciate where you guys are coming from, but I suspect you've never dealt with someone with anxiety issues. They're not going to see it that way.

Also I can't believe I'm arguing from this angle (that's not a comment on anyone btw, its just out of character for me)

Kirk Bauer wrote:

Picc wrote:

Kirk Bauer wrote: For everybody who wanted Gregor's Tome to auto-pass skill tests so you could play memorization classes: you can do that now. It really isn't a big deal to fail some skill tests in my opinion. I have a horrible memory but I still play them from time to time.

So your argument is suck it up because I do?

For some people the possibility of failing a test in public is a big enough deal to turn them off the class and the game entirely.

Yes, what Ed said. If you are nervous to attempt the skill test don't do it at all. If you just worry about getting it wrong but don't mind trying then try and don't sweat it.

And we got the shirt of Focus which is still available. You can go +1 while ignoring skill checks.

Harlax wrote:

Rob F wrote: Comment regarding LoDS: I still don't see why people aren't happy with the new change. It's a UR. The Shirt of Focus at the UR level is +2 to Healing. The Baton of Focus at the UR level is +2 to Healing. At the Rare level Healing items are +1. I get that it got nerfed but it never should have been more then +2 in the first place. Plus healers now have the new Tome which gives another +2. And my guess is that one day there will be a Legendary item which bumps up the Healing bonus appropriately. Let's not lobby too hard to improve it more only to have to nerf it a second time.

I'm ok with the revised LoDS.

I agree with Robs statement.

The lenses of divine sight before errata was too powerful for a UR. It made a lot of dungeons easier and as Jeff mentioned, hard to balance around. Hopefully though some of the increased damage in dungeons gets balanced due to this change.

I feel being able to manipulate your healing between two targets is still strong because the healing efficiency still is there.

Picc wrote:

Kirk Bauer wrote:

Picc wrote:

Kirk Bauer wrote: For everybody who wanted Gregor's Tome to auto-pass skill tests so you could play memorization classes: you can do that now. It really isn't a big deal to fail some skill tests in my opinion. I have a horrible memory but I still play them from time to time.

So your argument is suck it up because I do?

For some people the possibility of failing a test in public is a big enough deal to turn them off the class and the game entirely.

Yes, what Ed said. If you are nervous to attempt the skill test don't do it at all. If you just worry about getting it wrong but don't mind trying then try and don't sweat it.

I appreciate where you guys are coming from, but I suspect you've never dealt with someone with anxiety issues. They're not going to see it that way.

Also I can't believe I'm arguing from this angle (that's not a comment on anyone btw, its just out of character for me)

That's why I stress in both coaching and training that players should think of the test as a bonus, not a penalty.

Raven wrote: I'd definitely wear this over Earcuff of Inspiration, and am seriously considering it for my Paladin build where the AC is paramount.

Kirk Bauer wrote: For everybody who wanted Gregor's Tome to auto-pass skill tests so you could play memorization classes: you can do that now. It really isn't a big deal to fail some skill tests in my opinion. I have a horrible memory but I still play them from time to time.

I have never made a cleric skill check and do just fine.

Picc wrote:

Kirk Bauer wrote:

Picc wrote:

Kirk Bauer wrote: For everybody who wanted Gregor's Tome to auto-pass skill tests so you could play memorization classes: you can do that now. It really isn't a big deal to fail some skill tests in my opinion. I have a horrible memory but I still play them from time to time.

So your argument is suck it up because I do?

For some people the possibility of failing a test in public is a big enough deal to turn them off the class and the game entirely.

Yes, what Ed said. If you are nervous to attempt the skill test don't do it at all. If you just worry about getting it wrong but don't mind trying then try and don't sweat it.

I appreciate where you guys are coming from, but I suspect you've never dealt with someone with anxiety issues. They're not going to see it that way.

Also I can't believe I'm arguing from this angle (that's not a comment on anyone btw, its just out of character for me)

Since the Tome was overpowered by having both abilities (Auto-succeed and +x) it now leaves TPTB open to make a UR that is just Auto-succeed (and it sounds like it might be used).

Ed

MasterED wrote:

Picc wrote:

Kirk Bauer wrote:

Picc wrote:

Kirk Bauer wrote: For everybody who wanted Gregor's Tome to auto-pass skill tests so you could play memorization classes: you can do that now. It really isn't a big deal to fail some skill tests in my opinion. I have a horrible memory but I still play them from time to time.

So your argument is suck it up because I do?

For some people the possibility of failing a test in public is a big enough deal to turn them off the class and the game entirely.

Yes, what Ed said. If you are nervous to attempt the skill test don't do it at all. If you just worry about getting it wrong but don't mind trying then try and don't sweat it.

I appreciate where you guys are coming from, but I suspect you've never dealt with someone with anxiety issues. They're not going to see it that way.

Also I can't believe I'm arguing from this angle (that's not a comment on anyone btw, its just out of character for me)

Since the Tome was overpowered by having both abilities (Auto-succeed and +x) it now leaves TPTB open to make a UR that is just Auto-succeed (and it sounds like it might be used).

Ed

Honestly I'd be fine if the tome did nothing other then auto passing the skill test.

Raven wrote: I really like the new version.
(As an aside, I spoke out against it in the previous version where it acted as elemental damage reduction.)
Tokens which affect the party card are preferable to situational tokens where you have to remember you're wearing the earcuff, and how much reduction it gives you on this run, and then check with the DM that this is a reduce-able type of damage, and not some weird "Magic Fire" damage which can't be negated.

Think of it this way:
The Earcuff of the Phalanx is a great +2 AC for a new(er) player, in a slot with minimal competition.
And it has the potential to be even better than that.

Yes, there's the IceCrag and the Earcuff of Orbits... but those are hard to come by these days. Most players who started in the last 2-3 years are still using Rares in their ear slots. I'd definitely wear this over Earcuff of Inspiration, and am seriously considering it for my Paladin build where the AC is paramount.

Or, if you want to look at this a different way: It's like moving your Shield to an earcuff slot, so you can free up your hands to wield a 2-handed weapon, or hold a damage-bonus item in your offhand.

For newer player I agree a +2 AC is a decent bump for the ear slot. It is a synergistic token though. So for someone to buy all 10 for their group they likely are not going to be a new group. They are going to be players that know what their tokens do. I am not advocating for the Elemental reduction to return, just that the token be reviewed because I don't see as being vary popular synergistic token. If it is not going to be be synergetic then just make it +3 and remove the need to have more than 1. Call Earcuff of Shielding (which I think is ridiculous, but whatever).

I have been playing for more than 2-3 years and all my builds have 1 icecrag and some Rare in the other slot. I would not give up Inspiration of +4 Damage for +2 AC, but choices are good. It is just not one I have any doubt of making.

I very much enjoy the skill tests. My favorite suggestion was the one where you take 1 skill check and if you pass it you automatically succeed the rest of the checks in the room and get +2.

Give me a reason to take the skill check, but only require it once for time savings

Endgame wrote: I very much enjoy the skill tests. My favorite suggestion was the one where you take 1 skill check and if you pass it you automatically succeed the rest of the checks in the room and get +2.

Give me a reason to take the skill check, but only require it once for time savings

If you like doing checks, then you should keep doing them.

After what’s about to happen to LoDS, I don’t think auto-pass is out of line. Add it to LoDS if you don’t want it on the Tome.

I’ve been in puzzle rooms where the DM didn’t have beads or leaves anyway.

MasterED wrote:

jedibcg wrote: I don't think anyone has mentioned it but the Earcuff of Phalanx now feels very ick to me. I had considered a set before but for 10 UR's +4AC doesn't cut the mustard to replace Rare Earcuffs of Inspiration or Rare Earcuff on the Wind.

I hope there is someone that likes this token but I fear that it will be unwanted at the UR level because getting 1 is pretty much useless imo.

Agreed - this token needs review.

Ed

Maybe replace it with a Charm Earring, +2 Charm Slots.