MasterED wrote:
Picc wrote: Not at all, just right for its slot in fact. The most strength you can get from an UR belt is 4 with a downside, Frost Giant relic is +5 no downside, legendary is 7 no downside. Seems right to me.
The big difference between belts and kilts is we have +6 kilts with a downside at UR so I would expect one step up from that to be either +6 no downside or +7 with a downside
I don't think that's at all inconsistent.
Picc all slots are not equal.
I know, I'm by no means saying they are.
MasterED wrote: The kilts SHOULD have been at most +4 and a downside, then the Eldritch could have been +5 no downside and everyone would be fine.
I agree, but they weren't and now we have to deal with the fall out.
And at some level your even arguing that the combined kilt should be better then the sum of its parts. I'm just arguing for it to effectively stay the same (unless you think that anyone's build is really being hurt by those negatives, but thats another thread.)
MasterED wrote: But because they were OP and went +6 now people want the Eldritch to be +6 or even +8.
Well I agree that +8 is a step to far. Flat 6 choose 1 is basically just what we had before. And I think we should consider ourselves lucky that there is a negative we can easily drop off or people really would want +8 or some other power added on.
MasterED wrote:
I see this as an opportunity for people that have the UR to keep them and benefit from an OP token.
LoDs would like a word. I mean seriously have you ever known an eldritched component that people wanted to keep over the completed item before?
MasterED wrote:
Or TPTB could just recall all of the Kilt 2017/2018 URs and issue replacements. Just so it seems inline. I don't think anyone prefers that solution.
I'd be fine with it but I feel like if we pull back to many mistakes its going to do a lot more harm then good to people confidence about tokens. Were mistakes made, sure. Are the kilts over powered, ya probably. Do I wish the situation were different, of course. Do I think we have to live with it, ya sadly I think we do.
MasterED wrote: But that is just my opinion.
Ed
That's fair, your entitled to your opinion. It may well even be the correct one so I hope you keep advocating for it. I'll do the same until someone convinces me what I'm advocating for isn't in the best interest of the game.
Semper Gumby, Always flexible.
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