TOPIC: 2019 Reprinted Token Suggestions

MetaphoricDragon wrote:
Especially since, from my experience, there are not a ton of super great charms at rare level that aren't like, completion tokens.

Yes.

Wade Schwendemann wrote:
I could be convinced to add a +4 fort or reflex save charm, as the red level charms are lacking, imo.

Yes!

My first UR opened from a pack was a Charming Crown. That led me to the charming set and a Charm necklace. Then I learned the hard way that red charms are not so great. I do have a CoE, but would love to have access to a +4 Reflex Save charm to slot in that necklace.

I suppose some might be against adding even higher saves to the charming set, but I still feel like the UR charms available dwarf +4 to any save.

The Celestial Set

Sword
Bracers
Girdle

Would there be any value toward trying to compile reprint requests?

Maybe either compiling this thread, a Google sheet, a survey monkey or doodle poll?

What if we said something more concrete like, "if this token was reprinted, I would most likely pyp 1 or more"?

It may have already been mentioned, but if not, can the charm of rampage be reprinted?

I got bored and complied this thread thus far.

truedungeon.com/forum?view=topic&catid=581&id=248128

I’m opposed to all UR reprints. Doesn’t mean I won’t get them if they are. It just feels lazy to me.

Some in particular:

Mithral Gauntlets - those were (essentially) reprinted in 2015 as Gloves of the Brute.

I’m neutral on others. I wasn’t much for Charm of Enlightenment, but it might be preferable to a +4 WILL charm that stacked with it.

But, if we do, it seems we need to consider a schedule for reprinting all legendary components, not just this one.

Brad Mortensen wrote: But, if we do, it seems we need to consider a schedule for reprinting all legendary components, not just this one.

That only follows if the reason for the reprint is because it is part of a legendary recipe...which is not the case. Players want it reprinted for other purposes, and it just happens to also be used in a transmute recipe.

jedibcg wrote: I would not like to see the Charm of Enlightment reprinted, but would be fine with a different token that raised Wisdom to allow the use of LoDS.

I am not a big fan of reprinting Legendary ingredients except when needed (UR's).

By that same Logic I would not be a fan of the Ring of Fortitude, Ring of Iron Will, and Ring of Reflexes being reprinted. I would be fine with a ring that does the same things with a different name.

I know likely Ring of Protection +1 will likely get reprinted but doesn't mean I have to like it.

I'd be fine with functional reprints of those rings. But do you really want to be able to stack saves like that? Especially if some get their way and a ring slot expander UR is printed.

In any case why are you ok with reprinting URs which are Legendary ingredients, but not Rares? Anyone who needs these rings for a Legendary transmute likely already has them or can buy or trade for them. I don't get your opposition on this one.

kurtreznor wrote:

Brad Mortensen wrote: But, if we do, it seems we need to consider a schedule for reprinting all legendary components, not just this one.

That only follows if the reason for the reprint is because it is part of a legendary recipe...which is not the case. Players want it reprinted for other purposes, and it just happens to also be used in a transmute recipe.

I don’t like rules based on mind reading.

“It’s okay to reprint a legendary ingredient provided enough people pinky-swear they don’t want to use it for a legendary recipe.”

For the record, I don’t object to reprinting ingredients in principle. I don’t even object to reactivating relic recipes. If we can reprint URs, then why not relics?

Jeff has famously said that only one token (other than artifacts) will never be reprinted. Just because we’ve never seen a reprinted relic or legendary ingredient doesn’t mean we never will. There is no reason why a reprinted +2 Viper Fang, for instance, could not open the window to create more +3 Fangs. Surely all the justifications for allowing the +2 would apply to the +3. (The +5 is already timeless.)

Brad Mortensen wrote:

kurtreznor wrote:

Brad Mortensen wrote: But, if we do, it seems we need to consider a schedule for reprinting all legendary components, not just this one.

That only follows if the reason for the reprint is because it is part of a legendary recipe...which is not the case. Players want it reprinted for other purposes, and it just happens to also be used in a transmute recipe.

I don’t like rules based on mind reading.

“It’s okay to reprint a legendary ingredient provided enough people pinky-swear they don’t want to use it for a legendary recipe.”

For the record, I don’t object to reprinting ingredients in principle. I don’t even object to reactivating relic recipes. If we can reprint URs, then why not relics?

Jeff has famously said that only one token (other than artifacts) will never be reprinted. Just because we’ve never seen a reprinted relic or legendary ingredient doesn’t mean we never will. There is no reason why a reprinted +2 Viper Fang, for instance, could not open the window to create more +3 Fangs. Surely all the justifications for allowing the +2 would apply to the +3. (The +5 is already timeless.)

Actually, he's on record that two URs won't be reprinted now - HoP and AoTF. He also said he wasn't going to reprint Relics, but I don't recall the exact wording so I'm not sure how ironclad that is.

Brad Mortensen wrote:

kurtreznor wrote:

Brad Mortensen wrote: But, if we do, it seems we need to consider a schedule for reprinting all legendary components, not just this one.

That only follows if the reason for the reprint is because it is part of a legendary recipe...which is not the case. Players want it reprinted for other purposes, and it just happens to also be used in a transmute recipe.

I don’t like rules based on mind reading.

“It’s okay to reprint a legendary ingredient provided enough people pinky-swear they don’t want to use it for a legendary recipe.”

For the record, I don’t object to reprinting ingredients in principle. I don’t even object to reactivating relic recipes. If we can reprint URs, then why not relics?

Jeff has famously said that only one token (other than artifacts) will never be reprinted. Just because we’ve never seen a reprinted relic or legendary ingredient doesn’t mean we never will. There is no reason why a reprinted +2 Viper Fang, for instance, could not open the window to create more +3 Fangs. Surely all the justifications for allowing the +2 would apply to the +3. (The +5 is already timeless.)

IIRC it was JediBCG who object to the rings because they were ingredients for a Legendary.

Harlax wrote:

jedibcg wrote: I would not like to see the Charm of Enlightment reprinted, but would be fine with a different token that raised Wisdom to allow the use of LoDS.

I am not a big fan of reprinting Legendary ingredients except when needed (UR's).

By that same Logic I would not be a fan of the Ring of Fortitude, Ring of Iron Will, and Ring of Reflexes being reprinted. I would be fine with a ring that does the same things with a different name.

I know likely Ring of Protection +1 will likely get reprinted but doesn't mean I have to like it.

I'd be fine with functional reprints of those rings. But do you really want to be able to stack saves like that? Especially if some get their way and a ring slot expander UR is printed.

In any case why are you ok with reprinting URs which are Legendary ingredients, but not Rares? Anyone who needs these rings for a Legendary transmute likely already has them or can buy or trade for them. I don't get your opposition on this one.

Yep, Jedi.