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2019 Transmuted Token Suggestions (Non-Kilt) 5 years 8 months ago #49

What about transmutables in slots that currently don't have them?Such as the neck slot or the Ioun Stone slot? I think that there is a lot of design space to be used here to force even harder decisions in builds than we currently have.

I might be alone in this but any tokens that cause me to rethink or rearrange my whole build around a new concept are incredibly exciting. I think that recently this has been happening more and more and it's great. We've had the release of Thor's hammer which came with a minimum Dexterity requirement suggesting a greater balance between Strength and Dexterity in melee/ slider class builds instead of boosting one stat as high as possible. In the spell damage builds we've also seen a very large discussion of the Cabal Set compared to the Medallion of Mystic Mouth. These healthy discussions that broaden our perception of what classes can do I feel is great and I think this is the optimal time for that.

On a totally different note I agree that a Legendary Bard Instrument would be very welcomed. I am not a main but I think this discussion of what it could possibly do is fascinating.

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2019 Transmuted Token Suggestions (Non-Kilt) 5 years 8 months ago #50

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kurtreznor wrote: UR
Bracelets of deflection : gain DR 2

Relic
Bracelets of greater deflection : gain DR 3 & +2DEX

Legendary
Diana's bronze bracelets : gain DR 5, +2DEX, & +2 CON


Better make it Hippolyta's to avoid DC's lawyers.

And what do you mean by DR? I can guess, but it is not a standard TD term. Since D&D doesn't have Eldritch or Push damage, and flat DR blocks pretty much everything...
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2019 Transmuted Token Suggestions (Non-Kilt) 5 years 8 months ago #51

To be clear I would love a Relic and Legendary Bard instrument, however I'd like something new and different. A UR+ bard can already perform bardsong while taking most other actions, and getting an extra 2 damage for the party. And as a Bard I like doing more than just bardsong.

But how about something new and creative that is powerful enough for the bard to spend his whole turn using it once in a while. Something that's really helpful in most combats but not something you'd use every round.

Perhaps it could allow every other player to drink a Potion or use a Scroll as a free action.
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2019 Transmuted Token Suggestions (Non-Kilt) 5 years 8 months ago #52

Xavon wrote:

kurtreznor wrote: UR
Bracelets of deflection : gain DR 2

Relic
Bracelets of greater deflection : gain DR 3 & +2DEX

Legendary
Diana's bronze bracelets : gain DR 5, +2DEX, & +2 CON


Better make it Hippolyta's to avoid DC's lawyers.

And what do you mean by DR? I can guess, but it is not a standard TD term. Since D&D doesn't have Eldritch or Push damage, and flat DR blocks pretty much everything...


Yup, pretty much everything...except eldritch and push.
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2019 Transmuted Token Suggestions (Non-Kilt) 5 years 8 months ago #53

Kirk Bauer wrote: To be clear I would love a Relic and Legendary Bard instrument, however I'd like something new and different. A UR+ bard can already perform bardsong while taking most other actions, and getting an extra 2 damage for the party. And as a Bard I like doing more than just bardsong.

But how about something new and creative that is powerful enough for the bard to spend his whole turn using it once in a while. Something that's really helpful in most combats but not something you'd use every round.

Perhaps it could allow every other player to drink a Potion or use a Scroll as a free action.


What if the legendary instrument let the bard do all the things in one round?

Bardsong +
Attack +
Cast spell +
Scroll +
Drink potion +
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2019 Transmuted Token Suggestions (Non-Kilt) 5 years 8 months ago #54

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Kirk Bauer wrote: To be clear I would love a Relic and Legendary Bard instrument, however I'd like something new and different. A UR+ bard can already perform bardsong while taking most other actions, and getting an extra 2 damage for the party. And as a Bard I like doing more than just bardsong.

But how about something new and creative that is powerful enough for the bard to spend his whole turn using it once in a while. Something that's really helpful in most combats but not something you'd use every round.

Perhaps it could allow every other player to drink a Potion or use a Scroll as a free action.


How about a bard instrument that just gave everyone an extra free action per round.
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2019 Transmuted Token Suggestions (Non-Kilt) 5 years 8 months ago #55

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Fiddy wrote: My $0.02: The Fighters ought to get a new transmute weapon before the other classes. Last year's hammers brought every other class (other than Clerics) up to the point where the difference to the Slayer swords is miniscule.

Yes, they just got the Redoubt Set, but they gave to share it.

They have so little unique to them, especially the Human Fighters. Even their special ability on their card has been given away in a figurine.


I don't even bother with slayers, +2 war shillelagh has almost the same damage wheel as a +3 slayers it just doens't make sense for me to upgrade to a better weapon with it.

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2019 Transmuted Token Suggestions (Non-Kilt) 5 years 8 months ago #56

kurtreznor wrote: UR
Bracelets of deflection : gain DR 2

Relic
Bracelets of greater deflection : gain DR 3 & +2DEX

Legendary
Diana's bronze bracelets : gain DR 5, +2DEX, & +2 CON


I like it or something like this!

Maybe a generous “recipe 1” that consumes a Ta’Mors?

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2019 Transmuted Token Suggestions (Non-Kilt) 5 years 8 months ago #57

Nick Braun wrote: I still think they should reprint the +2 Great Club of Bashing and make a Legendary track to get it to +5 ____ Club of Bashing. Plus there isn't any amazing Barbarian Legendary weapon. Yes there is the +5 Slayer Sword, but ask any Barbarian, hitting things with a sword is nothing like hitting the enemy with a giant stick.


I still long for the day to see a Telephone pole as the ultimate transmute of a +2 great club of bashing, Maul of the Titans, or other. ;-) Doing 89 points of damage on a crit was nice this year...but I long to make an NPC shout out "What??" yet again as a few years ago.

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2019 Transmuted Token Suggestions (Non-Kilt) 5 years 8 months ago #58

Fiddy wrote: UR - Greater Unholy Symbol of Nerull - Allow casting Heal spells as Harm (cast as scroll)

Relic - High Priest's Unholy Symbol of Nerull - Allow casting Heal spells as Harm (apply up to 10 points of spell damage bonus)

Legendary - X's Unholy Symbol of Nerull - Allow casting Heal spells as Harm (apply full spell damage bonus)


I was thinking about something like this to repurpose heal or maybe even a symbol that allows the cleric to used our undead on any other type of monster. This is the first year I feel I used Turn undead repeatedly.

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2019 Transmuted Token Suggestions (Non-Kilt) 5 years 8 months ago #59

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Fiddy wrote: UR - Greater Unholy Symbol of Nerull - Allow casting Heal spells as Harm (cast as scroll)

Relic - High Priest's Unholy Symbol of Nerull - Allow casting Heal spells as Harm (apply up to 10 points of spell damage bonus)

Legendary - X's Unholy Symbol of Nerull - Allow casting Heal spells as Harm (apply full spell damage bonus)


What about:

Amulet of Pelor's Might
May cast Cure Wounds spells as Cause Wounds spells (cast as scroll)
Usable by: Cleric

Amulet of Pelor's Wrath
May cast Cure Wounds spells as Cause Wounds spells
Usable by: Cleric

Amulet of Pelor's Justice
May cast Cure Wounds spells as Cause Wounds spells, +2 damage/healing to spells
Usable by: Cleric


I like this but not on a neck slot. Maybe a charm?

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2019 Transmuted Token Suggestions (Non-Kilt) 5 years 8 months ago #60

Starkhound (Edwin) wrote:

Xavon wrote:

Fiddy wrote: UR - Greater Unholy Symbol of Nerull - Allow casting Heal spells as Harm (cast as scroll)

Relic - High Priest's Unholy Symbol of Nerull - Allow casting Heal spells as Harm (apply up to 10 points of spell damage bonus)

Legendary - X's Unholy Symbol of Nerull - Allow casting Heal spells as Harm (apply full spell damage bonus)


What about:

Amulet of Pelor's Might
May cast Cure Wounds spells as Cause Wounds spells (cast as scroll)
Usable by: Cleric

Amulet of Pelor's Wrath
May cast Cure Wounds spells as Cause Wounds spells
Usable by: Cleric

Amulet of Pelor's Justice
May cast Cure Wounds spells as Cause Wounds spells, +2 damage/healing to spells
Usable by: Cleric


I like this but not on a neck slot. Maybe a charm?


Giving up neck is tough (as a Paladin. I know!), but the ability to turn every heal.into an attack definitely feels at that level, if not too good period.
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