TOPIC: 2019 Transmuted Token Suggestions (Non-Kilt)

Brad Mortensen wrote:

Endgame wrote: I'm sure the number needs tweaking, but I'll leave that discussion to you experts I think the logistical issues could be solved by a higher quality treasure box, at whatever volume was deemed fit ideal for exchange.

I like the idea of a premium treasure box (maybe at 10 TC per pull), with a mix TBD. Last time there were two mixes didn’t work out as planned... but it would reduce the tons of loot required.

Mike Steele wrote: I'd recommend against different types of treasure boxes. There were lots of reports of people pulling from the wrong boxes in the past.

These are excellent points. I retract the suggestion due to potentially unforeseen consequences.

Picc wrote:

Wade Schwendemann wrote:

kurtreznor wrote:

Picc wrote: I'm with Bead on this one, letting people go say from +1 non stacking bonus treasure to +2 stacking (but in some way limited) bonus treasure is more likely to get them to buy nuggets that work with their +2.

So long as there is a good reason to swap the +2 item out for an UR at some point later I see no real danger in allowing people to to make a single boots of the marauder level transmuted TE.

Charm of decent fortune : counts as a charm of good fortune, but your max treasure is 11.

I would want this recipe to be more onerous than that for the shirt of blessed strength.

I believe we have done away with multi-stage transmutes now, so I don't know exactly how to balance properly.

Is 11 the right number? It may need to be adjusted up or down depending.

Perhaps this token should be 'always available' like the distilled healing?

Might be a good candidate for a multi year completion token recipe like the Ring of Heroism that one run a year players could work towards.

I like this as a use for completion tokens.

Late to the conversation but I like the ideas for a bard one and the wand holster idea from early in the thread. So many good ideas, so few transmutes to do...

Josh Wilhelmi wrote: How about a slotless floating hand that combines Hand of Glory and Medallion of Mystic Mouth? Basically it lets you wear an additional ring and handles the wand free action.

I'd use it.

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Josh Wilhelmi wrote: How about a slotless floating hand that combines Hand of Glory and Medallion of Mystic Mouth? Basically it lets you wear an additional ring and handles the wand free action.

I'd use it.

Me too. Love it.

Boilerplate wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Josh Wilhelmi wrote: How about a slotless floating hand that combines Hand of Glory and Medallion of Mystic Mouth? Basically it lets you wear an additional ring and handles the wand free action.

I'd use it.

Me too. Love it.

I'd use it, but it seems incredibly overpowered. Those are both pretty popular as single tokens that take slots, to combine them AND make them both slotless seems like too much. Even just combining them into one slot would probably be overpowered.

Mike Steele wrote:

Boilerplate wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Josh Wilhelmi wrote: How about a slotless floating hand that combines Hand of Glory and Medallion of Mystic Mouth? Basically it lets you wear an additional ring and handles the wand free action.

I'd use it.

Me too. Love it.

I'd use it, but it seems incredibly overpowered. Those are both pretty popular as single tokens that take slots, to combine them AND make them both slotless seems like too much. Even just combining them into one slot would probably be overpowered.

Agree. It sounds awesome. Too awesome.

Josh Wilhelmi wrote: How about a slotless floating hand that combines Hand of Glory and Medallion of Mystic Mouth? Basically it lets you wear an additional ring and handles the wand free action.

Making either of those effects slotless feels too good.

Combining them into one effect and taking the neck slot is still probably too good, even for a legendary, though it is much closer.

Mike Steele wrote:

Boilerplate wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Josh Wilhelmi wrote: How about a slotless floating hand that combines Hand of Glory and Medallion of Mystic Mouth? Basically it lets you wear an additional ring and handles the wand free action.

I'd use it.

Me too. Love it.

I'd use it, but it seems incredibly overpowered. Those are both pretty popular as single tokens that take slots, to combine them AND make them both slotless seems like too much. Even just combining them into one slot would probably be overpowered.

Well, it depends on the level.

Personally I would do it as a Neck slot at the Relic level with 2 recipes. One that is cheap but needs both the HoG And the Mouth Amulet, and the other that is expensive but only needs one. Then at the Legendary level it can be slotless (or maybe an Ioun stone?) that prevents you from using either of the base items.

Xavon wrote:

Mike Steele wrote:

Boilerplate wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Josh Wilhelmi wrote: How about a slotless floating hand that combines Hand of Glory and Medallion of Mystic Mouth? Basically it lets you wear an additional ring and handles the wand free action.

I'd use it.

Me too. Love it.

I'd use it, but it seems incredibly overpowered. Those are both pretty popular as single tokens that take slots, to combine them AND make them both slotless seems like too much. Even just combining them into one slot would probably be overpowered.

Well, it depends on the level.

Personally I would do it as a Neck slot at the Relic level with 2 recipes. One that is cheap but needs both the HoG And the Mouth Amulet, and the other that is expensive but only needs one. Then at the Legendary level it can be slotless (or maybe an Ioun stone?) that prevents you from using either of the base items.

I initially thought that this would be too powerful - but now I'm not so sure.

Consider for comparison purposes the Awakened Charm of Synergy, which combines a very strong and a decent UR into a single slot at relic.

So - relics can combine 2 items into 1 slot.

Legendaries then, perhaps, can combine 3 items into 1 slot, or 2 items into 0 slots.

In fact, we've seen this before, the Charm of Avarice combines 3 items into 1 slot - one of which is a neck slot item and one of which was a ring slot item.

So, I guess a new legendary that combined a ring and a neck at slotless, or one that combines a ring, neck, and charm in a charm slot, is not completely out of bounds.

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Xavon wrote:

Mike Steele wrote:

Boilerplate wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Josh Wilhelmi wrote: How about a slotless floating hand that combines Hand of Glory and Medallion of Mystic Mouth? Basically it lets you wear an additional ring and handles the wand free action.

I'd use it.

Me too. Love it.

I'd use it, but it seems incredibly overpowered. Those are both pretty popular as single tokens that take slots, to combine them AND make them both slotless seems like too much. Even just combining them into one slot would probably be overpowered.

Well, it depends on the level.

Personally I would do it as a Neck slot at the Relic level with 2 recipes. One that is cheap but needs both the HoG And the Mouth Amulet, and the other that is expensive but only needs one. Then at the Legendary level it can be slotless (or maybe an Ioun stone?) that prevents you from using either of the base items.

I initially thought that this would be too powerful - but now I'm not so sure.

Consider for comparison purposes the Awakened Charm of Synergy, which combines a very strong and a decent UR into a single slot at relic.

So - relics can combine 2 items into 1 slot.

Legendaries then, perhaps, can combine 3 items into 1 slot, or 2 items into 0 slots.

In fact, we've seen this before, the Charm of Avarice combines 3 items into 1 slot - one of which is a neck slot item and one of which was a ring slot item.

So, I guess a new legendary that combined a ring and a neck at slotless, or one that combines a ring, neck, and charm in a charm slot, is not completely out of bounds.

Combining down to one slot has some precedence, so that part makes sense. But going from slotted to slotless is a different matter I think. When you're taking up a slot, there is still a decision to be made about equipping it or not. Once it becomes slotless there becomes no decision, you just always equip it.

Fiddy wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Xavon wrote:

Mike Steele wrote:

Boilerplate wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Josh Wilhelmi wrote: How about a slotless floating hand that combines Hand of Glory and Medallion of Mystic Mouth? Basically it lets you wear an additional ring and handles the wand free action.

I'd use it.

Me too. Love it.

I'd use it, but it seems incredibly overpowered. Those are both pretty popular as single tokens that take slots, to combine them AND make them both slotless seems like too much. Even just combining them into one slot would probably be overpowered.

Well, it depends on the level.

Personally I would do it as a Neck slot at the Relic level with 2 recipes. One that is cheap but needs both the HoG And the Mouth Amulet, and the other that is expensive but only needs one. Then at the Legendary level it can be slotless (or maybe an Ioun stone?) that prevents you from using either of the base items.

I initially thought that this would be too powerful - but now I'm not so sure.

Consider for comparison purposes the Awakened Charm of Synergy, which combines a very strong and a decent UR into a single slot at relic.

So - relics can combine 2 items into 1 slot.

Legendaries then, perhaps, can combine 3 items into 1 slot, or 2 items into 0 slots.

In fact, we've seen this before, the Charm of Avarice combines 3 items into 1 slot - one of which is a neck slot item and one of which was a ring slot item.

So, I guess a new legendary that combined a ring and a neck at slotless, or one that combines a ring, neck, and charm in a charm slot, is not completely out of bounds.

Combining down to one slot has some precedence, so that part makes sense. But going from slotted to slotless is a different matter I think. When you're taking up a slot, there is still a decision to be made about equipping it or not. Once it becomes slotless there becomes no decision, you just always equip it.

Sure - then maybe:

Charm slot: Medallion of Mystic Mouth, Hand of Glory, Ioun Stone Sapphire Prism

Or something. (Neck, Neck, Ioun -> Charm instead of CoA's Neck, Ring, Charm -> Charm ).

Still love to see this happen... NO REPRINT of Goblet of Healing.... Buuuuutttt....

For those who have it a transmute...

Goblet of Greater Healing

2 faerie water to heal 5 points

And reprint faerie water