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2019 Ultra-Rare Token Suggestions 1 year 1 month ago #97

I haven’t seen the obligatory “spell book” or “anything that makes intel matter” suggestions in this thread yet, so I will resurrect an idea from an older post.

Not sure whether it belongs in this thread, but how about creating a “tome” slot that is linked to intelligence, similar to how charisma is linked to figurines? More intel means you can equip more tomes - and I would propose many more at the top intel levels. In game terms, this would represent the knowledge-based advantages that characters of higher intellect can bring to the adventure based on the extent of their readings.

In theory, even the low intel classes could access one or more tomes if they hit the intel minimums. And tomes could be designed that are class specific - imagine spell books for wizards, holy books for clerics and monks, scores for bards, art of war for fighter types, nature guides for druids and rangers, etc. Or location specific books to represent doing prep research in advance of visiting some future adventure locale (imagine equipping Dante’s Inferno to receive fire resistance, for example). Could open up some fun token development and build options for multiple classes. And while I’m putting this idea in the UR thread, I suppose tomes could be a variety of rarities.

Of course the major downside is that tomes are currently slotless, so creating a slot might be a step backwards. That said, I think there are currently only three in the game (Carter’s Tome of Insight, Tome of Recall, and Libram of Looting, not counting GP books), so this might not be too limiting.

And this doesn’t necessarily need to be instead of the excellent spell book ideas discussed elsewhere. I think those ideas could work together.

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2019 Ultra-Rare Token Suggestions 1 year 1 month ago #98

I would love to see an UR blade that's Rogue-friendly and transmutes up to a Relic, then to a Legendary in the vein of "Loki's Mischievous Dagger" or something. The Legendary could negate all Sneak Attack resistances and stun on a successful sneak attack?

Also, I don't know if this is the right place for this but I had this idea:
Something in the same line as the Rod of Seven Parts, but with a Norse theme: the Sword of Sigurd (or Siegfried). Each piece of the shattered sword could act as a piece of the Rod did, adding +1 to a stat. When reforged, it could be a +1 level and do extra damage to Dragons.

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2019 Ultra-Rare Token Suggestions 1 year 1 month ago #99

Noodle wrote: I would love to see an UR blade that's Rogue-friendly and transmutes up to a Relic, then to a Legendary in the vein of "Loki's Mischievous Dagger" or something. The Legendary could negate all Sneak Attack resistances and stun on a successful sneak attack?

Also, I don't know if this is the right place for this but I had this idea:
Something in the same line as the Rod of Seven Parts, but with a Norse theme: the Sword of Sigurd (or Siegfried). Each piece of the shattered sword could act as a piece of the Rod did, adding +1 to a stat. When reforged, it could be a +1 level and do extra damage to Dragons.


The stun part of that seems way OP.

Monks need a 20/19 to get that effect.

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2019 Ultra-Rare Token Suggestions 1 year 1 month ago #100

Wade Schwendemann wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote: UR Charm of Transposition - Charm - All

Force the DM to swap the position of your puck with any other puck (other puck owner must agree) 1/combat


Would both players need the charm?


Not in my mind :).

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2019 Ultra-Rare Token Suggestions 1 year 1 month ago #101

Wade Schwendemann wrote:

kurtreznor wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote: UR +2 Angel Feather - Barbarian, Bard, Cleric, Druid, Fighter, Paladin, Ranger - Mainhand

3, 4, 5, 6 sacred damage

In the hands of a Paladin, when the party rolls a saving throw they roll twice and take the higher roll.


I like the roll twice mechanic, but it seems pointless to put it on a bad weapon. First, nobody except paladin would choose this over another UR weapon, and even paladin will just use the ability then switch weapons. Probably better as a different slot for paladin only.


Thematically I love the idea of the Paladin giving up something for the benefit of the party.

In practice we already have Paladins giving up their neck slot item for a 2nd guard. Having them give up another slot does feel a bit limiting to me.
It may be too good as a slotless, even once per game.
Maybe a back slot, so those with brooching can use it and another?
Or a figurine, as a Paladin can already have 2 of those?
Or add it to a new UR shield? Could make for some interesting choices.


Maybe put the reroll ability on a figurine?

If it’s a once per game paladin only item maybe this is better as a rare.

Alternatively, we could improve that weapon stats.

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2019 Ultra-Rare Token Suggestions 1 year 1 month ago #102

Matthew Hayward wrote:

kurtreznor wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote: UR - Ring of the Skirmisher - All

Dex 18 Prerequisite

Negate all HP damage from non-targeted attacks


Wow, super strong. Unfortunately, i think negating all the damage is too good. Since a major balancing effect is to use AoE attacks. Maybe half damage?



I was imagining the user would still take full damage from aoe/breath/retribution.

Not sure how to word it if AOE attacks are considered targeted.

If people like the idea and this is too strong 1/2 damage or -5 or something works.


Wait, now i am confused. What did you mean by 'non-targeted attacks'?
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2019 Ultra-Rare Token Suggestions 1 year 1 month ago #103

kurtreznor wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote:

kurtreznor wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote: UR - Ring of the Skirmisher - All

Dex 18 Prerequisite

Negate all HP damage from non-targeted attacks


Wow, super strong. Unfortunately, i think negating all the damage is too good. Since a major balancing effect is to use AoE attacks. Maybe half damage?



I was imagining the user would still take full damage from aoe/breath/retribution.

Not sure how to word it if AOE attacks are considered targeted.

If people like the idea and this is too strong 1/2 damage or -5 or something works.


Wait, now i am confused. What did you mean by 'non-targeted attacks'?


Nope - it is I who am confused!

My idea was as you interpreted - the wearer can’t be damaged by attacks that don’t specifically target them.

So, ignore my last past.

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2019 Ultra-Rare Token Suggestions 1 year 1 month ago #104

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Wade Schwendemann wrote:

kurtreznor wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote: UR +2 Angel Feather - Barbarian, Bard, Cleric, Druid, Fighter, Paladin, Ranger - Mainhand

3, 4, 5, 6 sacred damage

In the hands of a Paladin, when the party rolls a saving throw they roll twice and take the higher roll.


I like the roll twice mechanic, but it seems pointless to put it on a bad weapon. First, nobody except paladin would choose this over another UR weapon, and even paladin will just use the ability then switch weapons. Probably better as a different slot for paladin only.


Thematically I love the idea of the Paladin giving up something for the benefit of the party.

In practice we already have Paladins giving up their neck slot item for a 2nd guard. Having them give up another slot does feel a bit limiting to me.
It may be too good as a slotless, even once per game.
Maybe a back slot, so those with brooching can use it and another?
Or a figurine, as a Paladin can already have 2 of those?
Or add it to a new UR shield? Could make for some interesting choices.


Maybe put the reroll ability on a figurine?

If it’s a once per game paladin only item maybe this is better as a rare.

Alternatively, we could improve that weapon stats.


As a shield I would be interested, as a figurine I would probably use it, as a weapon I would not be using it. There are so much better options unless that damage stats are improved.

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2019 Ultra-Rare Token Suggestions 1 year 1 month ago #105

Wayne Rhodes wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Wade Schwendemann wrote:

kurtreznor wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote: UR +2 Angel Feather - Barbarian, Bard, Cleric, Druid, Fighter, Paladin, Ranger - Mainhand

3, 4, 5, 6 sacred damage

In the hands of a Paladin, when the party rolls a saving throw they roll twice and take the higher roll.


I like the roll twice mechanic, but it seems pointless to put it on a bad weapon. First, nobody except paladin would choose this over another UR weapon, and even paladin will just use the ability then switch weapons. Probably better as a different slot for paladin only.


Thematically I love the idea of the Paladin giving up something for the benefit of the party.

In practice we already have Paladins giving up their neck slot item for a 2nd guard. Having them give up another slot does feel a bit limiting to me.
It may be too good as a slotless, even once per game.
Maybe a back slot, so those with brooching can use it and another?
Or a figurine, as a Paladin can already have 2 of those?
Or add it to a new UR shield? Could make for some interesting choices.


Maybe put the reroll ability on a figurine?

If it’s a once per game paladin only item maybe this is better as a rare.

Alternatively, we could improve that weapon stats.


As a shield I would be interested, as a figurine I would probably use it, as a weapon I would not be using it. There are so much better options unless that damage stats are improved.


But as a weapon you dont have to use it, just own it...after initiative, 1st round you announce 'free action switch weapon' then attack with whatever you want. It might as well be a slotless item that takes your 1st free action to use.
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2019 Ultra-Rare Token Suggestions 1 year 1 month ago #106

kurtreznor wrote:

Wayne Rhodes wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Wade Schwendemann wrote:

kurtreznor wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote: UR +2 Angel Feather - Barbarian, Bard, Cleric, Druid, Fighter, Paladin, Ranger - Mainhand

3, 4, 5, 6 sacred damage

In the hands of a Paladin, when the party rolls a saving throw they roll twice and take the higher roll.


I like the roll twice mechanic, but it seems pointless to put it on a bad weapon. First, nobody except paladin would choose this over another UR weapon, and even paladin will just use the ability then switch weapons. Probably better as a different slot for paladin only.


Thematically I love the idea of the Paladin giving up something for the benefit of the party.

In practice we already have Paladins giving up their neck slot item for a 2nd guard. Having them give up another slot does feel a bit limiting to me.
It may be too good as a slotless, even once per game.
Maybe a back slot, so those with brooching can use it and another?
Or a figurine, as a Paladin can already have 2 of those?
Or add it to a new UR shield? Could make for some interesting choices.


Maybe put the reroll ability on a figurine?

If it’s a once per game paladin only item maybe this is better as a rare.

Alternatively, we could improve that weapon stats.


As a shield I would be interested, as a figurine I would probably use it, as a weapon I would not be using it. There are so much better options unless that damage stats are improved.


But as a weapon you dont have to use it, just own it...after initiative, 1st round you announce 'free action switch weapon' then attack with whatever you want. It might as well be a slotless item that takes your 1st free action to use.


Well, the Paladin announcing guard counts as their first round free action I believe.

I agree it may not be good enough for a UR. Though we have FoP:Cat, which is better if the first roll succeeds, but also only works for the individual.
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2019 Ultra-Rare Token Suggestions 1 year 1 month ago #107

Boilerplate wrote: I haven’t seen the obligatory “spell book” or “anything that makes intel matter” suggestions in this thread yet, so I will resurrect an idea from an older post.

Not sure whether it belongs in this thread, but how about creating a “tome” slot that is linked to intelligence, similar to how charisma is linked to figurines? More intel means you can equip more tomes - and I would propose many more at the top intel levels. In game terms, this would represent the knowledge-based advantages that characters of higher intellect can bring to the adventure based on the extent of their readings.

In theory, even the low intel classes could access one or more tomes if they hit the intel minimums. And tomes could be designed that are class specific - imagine spell books for wizards, holy books for clerics and monks, scores for bards, art of war for fighter types, nature guides for druids and rangers, etc. Or location specific books to represent doing prep research in advance of visiting some future adventure locale (imagine equipping Dante’s Inferno to receive fire resistance, for example). Could open up some fun token development and build options for multiple classes. And while I’m putting this idea in the UR thread, I suppose tomes could be a variety of rarities.

Of course the major downside is that tomes are currently slotless, so creating a slot might be a step backwards. That said, I think there are currently only three in the game (Carter’s Tome of Insight, Tome of Recall, and Libram of Looting, not counting GP books), so this might not be too limiting.

And this doesn’t necessarily need to be instead of the excellent spell book ideas discussed elsewhere. I think those ideas could work together.


I like this idea and I really think there should be something which utilizes the intelligence and wisdom feature for wizards, druids, and clerics.
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2019 Ultra-Rare Token Suggestions 1 year 1 month ago #108

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Matthew Hayward wrote: UR Stalker Skin Gloves - Hands - Rogue

After a successful sneak attack, you may make another sneak attack on the same target the next round.


I like this, perhaps an Int prerequisite as you would need to be crafty


Please no, rogues do not need another sneak attack modifing item that blocks a traditionally damage boosting slot (and we especially dont need one that requires us to give up another slot to boost int).
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