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2019 Ultra-Rare Token Suggestions 1 year 10 months ago #157

Nice interesting items here. Please take the feedback as constructive.

Ramsildor wrote: +2 Celestial Greaves
+1 to hit vs. “Outsiders”, Part of the Celestial set

Greaves are destined for a Treasure Box only as long as it was there I would be fine with it.

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Celestial Mail of the Mind

+6 to AC, Imbues Psychic power, Part of Celestial Set

Good idea for an UR

Ramsildor wrote: +2 Celestial Keen Long Sword of Vengeance
keen edge, Wheel would mimic the +2 Slayer sword, Bard, Ranger, Fighter, Barbarian, Rogue, Druid. Part of the Celestial set

The Slayer Sword had a 7.5 average damage and only Barbarian/Fighters/Paladin use. Opening it up should decrease to about 7.0 and if you want to keep the Keen Edge then another decrease (Celestial was only 5.5)

Ramsildor wrote: This includes the older set
When all three items are equipped, the wearer becomes immune to melee and mental attacks from evil outsiders. “Outsiders” are natives of other planes of existence, including angels and demons.
When four items are worn 3 pts of Eldritch retributive damage to all Outsiders
When five items are worn 3 pts of Eldritch retributive damage to all Outsiders and all critical hits do double damage to Outsiders

If a player is immune to melee then retribution probably would not trigger.

Ramsildor wrote: +3 Celestial Keen Long Sword of Ultimate Vengeance
Keen Edge 18-20, Wheel mimics +3 Slayer sword, usable by Bard, Ranger, Fighter, Barbarian, Rogue, Druid
Didn’t add Paladins, Holy Men shouldn’t be seeking Vengeance

The Hammer of Smiting last year was usable by all and at 6.67 average damage (19-20) critical. It would have to drop a bit for expanded Keen and Celestial set.

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2019 Ultra-Rare Token Suggestions 1 year 10 months ago #158

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Great reply Ed...

Maybe instead of Greaves, we do another set of bracers...

+2 Celestial Bracers of Vengeance

+1 to hit/damage vs. Outsiders

Maybe make this like the Fae Shirt trade in for the old Celestial bracers

This includes the older set
When all three items are equipped, the wearer becomes immune to melee and mental attacks from evil outsiders. “Outsiders” are natives of other planes of existence, including angels and demons.
When four items are worn +2 to Hit/ Damage pts of Eldritch damage to all Outsiders
When five items are worn +2 Hit/Damage pts. of Eldritch damage to all Outsiders and all critical hits do double damage to Outsiders

Still like the sword
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2019 Ultra-Rare Token Suggestions 1 year 10 months ago #159

Ramsildor wrote: Didn’t add Paladins, Holy Men shouldn’t be seeking Vengeance


Vengeance Paladins have become so iconic that there is now an oath dedicated to it .
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2019 Ultra-Rare Token Suggestions 1 year 10 months ago #160

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kurtreznor wrote:

Grekel! wrote: So....
Right now, there are two boots, two pairs of pants, and one amulet that grant straight-up free movement. 5 items, 3 slots, one UR. Just wondering if it is a thing to consider, to incorporate that ability into another UR slot?


Wayfinders goggles : free movement & +1 to-hit ranged

Wayfinders cap : +1 saves

Wayfinders compass (slotless) : cannot be surprised (*edit: or 'prevent being surprised 1/game')

Wayfinder set bonus: +1 level

If THAT doesnt convince red players to make the jump to their first UR purchase, i dont know what will.


Fascinating- that is actually kind of a neat balance. Must forego head and eye slot URs to Red, AND have UR to make level up...

Intriguing
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Davoruk wrote:

Boilerplate wrote: I haven’t seen the obligatory “spell book” or “anything that makes intel matter” suggestions in this thread yet, so I will resurrect an idea from an older post.


I always liked the idea of a UR intelligent weapon that is transmutable. (You have to be smarter than the weapon to use it.) Then give it special abilities as you transmute up.

UR level: on a hit it can cast bless, once per dungeon.


Neat - this could be a whole family of weapons or even other items...
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2019 Ultra-Rare Token Suggestions 1 year 10 months ago #162

Davoruk wrote:

Boilerplate wrote: I haven’t seen the obligatory “spell book” or “anything that makes intel matter” suggestions in this thread yet, so I will resurrect an idea from an older post.


I always liked the idea of a UR intelligent weapon that is transmutable. (You have to be smarter than the weapon to use it.) Then give it special abilities as you transmute up.

UR level: on a hit it can cast bless, once per dungeon.


I love the idea of intelligent weapons. They are an iconic part of the original game.

I would want them at Relic or higher only though.

Perhaps they would require higher INT, WIS, CHA or some combination to wield without going insane.

They could also (possibly) imbue psychic power
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2019 Ultra-Rare Token Suggestions 1 year 10 months ago #163

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Davoruk wrote:

Boilerplate wrote: I haven’t seen the obligatory “spell book” or “anything that makes intel matter” suggestions in this thread yet, so I will resurrect an idea from an older post.


I always liked the idea of a UR intelligent weapon that is transmutable. (You have to be smarter than the weapon to use it.) Then give it special abilities as you transmute up.

UR level: on a hit it can cast bless, once per dungeon.


I love the idea of intelligent weapons. They are an iconic part of the original game.

I would want them at Relic or higher only though.

Perhaps they would require higher INT, WIS, CHA or some combination to wield without going insane.

They could also (possibly) imbue psychic power


Nothing says it has to be a weapon... Dr. Strange's cape seems like a great non-weapon intelligent item.

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2019 Ultra-Rare Token Suggestions 1 year 10 months ago #164

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Davoruk wrote:

Boilerplate wrote: I haven’t seen the obligatory “spell book” or “anything that makes intel matter” suggestions in this thread yet, so I will resurrect an idea from an older post.


I always liked the idea of a UR intelligent weapon that is transmutable. (You have to be smarter than the weapon to use it.) Then give it special abilities as you transmute up.

UR level: on a hit it can cast bless, once per dungeon.


I love the idea of intelligent weapons. They are an iconic part of the original game.

I would want them at Relic or higher only though.

Perhaps they would require higher INT, WIS, CHA or some combination to wield without going insane.

They could also (possibly) imbue psychic power


Nothing says it has to be a weapon... Dr. Strange's cape seems like a great non-weapon intelligent item.


Fair enough, I was thinking back (fondly) on 1st Edition AD&D
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2019 Ultra-Rare Token Suggestions 1 year 10 months ago #165

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Wade Schwendemann wrote:

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Xavon wrote: Ioun Stone Turquoise Crescent
Immune to Blindness, Fear, Petrification, Charm, and Silence
Usable by: All


I really like that one, Xavon.
Meaning: I'd quite possibly equip it instead of an ISSN, with how crowded the Ioun slots are getting.


I like it also, although it would take one of our non-TE slots. I think of it like, as of two years from now, people in our group only have two Ioun Stone slots, the other three are permanently locked down with TE tokens. :)

Agree - it would be competitive in that slot.


I would be cautious of any token that makes it to easy for players to avoid interacting with room states. I cant see it being allowed to function normally in practice.

In terms of slot crowding, I hope we see an orbits reprint at some point in the Znugget cycle, I suspect it would be very popular as a pyp.


While I like the original token, I think it is a little too good.
It is already tough enough to threaten high end players.
HP really isnt the way.
Effects are a larger threat to be sure.
Cancelling too many at once is too much.
Consider Medallion of Greyhawk or Ioun Stone Lavender Ellipse. Granted both are underpowered now, but don't make the mistake of going too far, too fast.

Earcuff of Orbits will be on a lot of peoples request for reprint list in 2022 I suspect. 2021 is also possible, but probably too soon.


But really, how often do more than one of those effects come into play? There was fear this year, but you had a warning. Unless you already know the dungeon, wearing immunity items is a gamble. If those effects don't show up, you arguably wasted a slot. That's why I think, especially considering the available Ioun Stones, its fair trade off.
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2019 Ultra-Rare Token Suggestions 1 year 10 months ago #166

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Wade Schwendemann wrote:

Fiddy wrote:

Wade Schwendemann wrote:

Davoruk wrote:

Boilerplate wrote: I haven’t seen the obligatory “spell book” or “anything that makes intel matter” suggestions in this thread yet, so I will resurrect an idea from an older post.


I always liked the idea of a UR intelligent weapon that is transmutable. (You have to be smarter than the weapon to use it.) Then give it special abilities as you transmute up.

UR level: on a hit it can cast bless, once per dungeon.


I love the idea of intelligent weapons. They are an iconic part of the original game.

I would want them at Relic or higher only though.

Perhaps they would require higher INT, WIS, CHA or some combination to wield without going insane.

They could also (possibly) imbue psychic power


Nothing says it has to be a weapon... Dr. Strange's cape seems like a great non-weapon intelligent item.


Fair enough, I was thinking back (fondly) on 1st Edition AD&D

Seriously - If this gets embraced, it could open a whole new family or class of TD items! That could be awesome!
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2019 Ultra-Rare Token Suggestions 1 year 10 months ago #167

Ramsildor wrote: +2 Celestial Greaves
+1 to hit vs. “Outsiders”, Part of the Celestial set

Celestial Mail of the Mind

+6 to AC, Imbues Psychic power, Part of Celestial Set

+2 Celestial Keen Long Sword of Vengeance
keen edge, Wheel would mimic the +2 Slayer sword, Bard, Ranger, Fighter, Barbarian, Rogue, Druid. Part of the Celestial set

This includes the older set
When all three items are equipped, the wearer becomes immune to melee and mental attacks from evil outsiders. “Outsiders” are natives of other planes of existence, including angels and demons.
When four items are worn 3 pts of Eldritch retributive damage to all Outsiders
When five items are worn 3 pts of Eldritch retributive damage to all Outsiders and all critical hits do double damage to Outsiders


Transmute the +2 Celestial Keen Long Sword of Vengeance and any other +1 or above UR bladed weapon to create the (as well as trade goods)

+3 Celestial Keen Long Sword of Ultimate Vengeance
Keen Edge 18-20, Wheel mimics +3 Slayer sword, usable by Bard, Ranger, Fighter, Barbarian, Rogue, Druid
Didn’t add Paladins, Holy Men shouldn’t be seeking Vengeance


I like these ideas. I really like the idea of bringing some love back to the old celestial set.
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2019 Ultra-Rare Token Suggestions 1 year 10 months ago #168

Maybe it's been mentioned before, but we probably should have a UR token that conveys Psycic Power again since the Charming Crown will be rotating out.

Maybe:

Ultra Rare - Earcuff of Foreboding - Ear - All

Free Movement & imbues Psychic Power

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