TOPIC: New Newsletter

Don't further complicate the system by doing loot draws in the Epilogue room, please. It's nice now that there isn't a crowd when we enter the room, and if we did start doing that, the mix should be identical. We can't assume all new players won't want monster bits just because some new players don't want them.

Also, Laz should absolutely either have the effect of his artifact modified or should be refunded the gold/components he paid for that effect on his artifact. To suggest that it shouldn't be addressed is just wrong. It's not our artifact, it's his. Changing it only affects him, not us. Give him an extra 3 token pulls or refund him (prorate it, if you really want to do it right - he has had several years of using the effect). But something needs to be addressed. Otherwise someday if there ever are arcane recipes made available again those heavy hitter token buyers are going to be hesitant to invest in something that might be seriously nerfed on down the road.

It would be easier for Jeff if we (me included) didn't whine so much

If you like to feel you earned your chips, make a deal with yourself. For every room you fail, give away a treasure to a random newbie.

Joshua Baessler wrote: Don't further complicate the system by doing loot draws in the Epilogue room, please. It's nice now that there isn't a crowd when we enter the room, and if we did start doing that, the mix should be identical. We can't assume all new players won't want monster bits just because some new players don't want them.

Also, Laz should absolutely either have the effect of his artifact modified or should be refunded the gold/components he paid for that effect on his artifact. To suggest that it shouldn't be addressed is just wrong. It's not our artifact, it's his. Changing it only affects him, not us. Give him an extra 3 token pulls or refund him (prorate it, if you really want to do it right - he has had several years of using the effect). But something needs to be addressed. Otherwise someday if there ever are arcane recipes made available again those heavy hitter token buyers are going to be hesitant to invest in something that might be seriously nerfed on down the road.

My hope is that arcane recipe tokens are never made available again. And if they are, I'm sure there will be intense competition to get them regardless of whether or not any current artifacts are modified to take into account power creep.

There's a difference between "creep" and "nullification"

Brad Mortensen wrote: There's a difference between "creep" and "nullification"

Exactly. Lazlo getting compensated for the loss of an effect of his artifact doesn't really fall into the category of power creep because it only affects him. The effect we're talking about having no in-game affect itself. Who is going to be hurt by his artifact getting fixed or him getting refunded for that effect?

Joshua Baessler wrote:

Brad Mortensen wrote: There's a difference between "creep" and "nullification"

Exactly. Lazlo getting compensated for the loss of an effect of his artifact doesn't really fall into the category of power creep because it only affects him. The effect we're talking about having no in-game affect itself. Who is going to be hurt by his artifact getting fixed or him getting refunded for that effect?

I'd guess that Chad and Jeff will be having discussions about that.

Mike Steele wrote:

Joshua Baessler wrote:

Brad Mortensen wrote: There's a difference between "creep" and "nullification"

Exactly. Lazlo getting compensated for the loss of an effect of his artifact doesn't really fall into the category of power creep because it only affects him. The effect we're talking about having no in-game affect itself. Who is going to be hurt by his artifact getting fixed or him getting refunded for that effect?

I'd guess that Chad and Jeff will be having discussions about that.

The fact that anyone other than Chad and Jeff are discussing it is a bit ridiculous IMO

Arcanist Kolixela wrote:

Mike Steele wrote:

Joshua Baessler wrote:

Brad Mortensen wrote: There's a difference between "creep" and "nullification"

Exactly. Lazlo getting compensated for the loss of an effect of his artifact doesn't really fall into the category of power creep because it only affects him. The effect we're talking about having no in-game affect itself. Who is going to be hurt by his artifact getting fixed or him getting refunded for that effect?

I'd guess that Chad and Jeff will be having discussions about that.

The fact that anyone other than Chad and Jeff are discussing it is a bit ridiculous IMO

It does seem like an issue just between Chad and Jeff.

Mike Steele wrote:

Arcanist Kolixela wrote:

Mike Steele wrote:

Joshua Baessler wrote:

Brad Mortensen wrote: There's a difference between "creep" and "nullification"

Exactly. Lazlo getting compensated for the loss of an effect of his artifact doesn't really fall into the category of power creep because it only affects him. The effect we're talking about having no in-game affect itself. Who is going to be hurt by his artifact getting fixed or him getting refunded for that effect?

I'd guess that Chad and Jeff will be having discussions about that.

The fact that anyone other than Chad and Jeff are discussing it is a bit ridiculous IMO

It does seem like an issue just between Chad and Jeff.

You know what? You're absolutely right. Butting out of that conversation.

Arcanist Kolixela wrote: The fact that anyone other than Chad and Jeff are discussing it is a bit ridiculous IMO

Well, to be fair, Lazlo brought it up here first. I doubt the public discussion would have happened if he hadn't.

yes i did

lazlo_hollyfeld1985 wrote: yes i did

Chad, just say the word and we can discuss it for another 10 pages.