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Re: New Newsletter 8 years 9 months ago #109

Druegar wrote:

Brad Mortensen wrote: what if we added a fifth dungeon?

Where would this 5th dungeon be placed?
Hall A is not a viable answer.


I'm dreaming, obviously. We could get Hall D, or take over a local hotel ballroom, or put up a circus tent where the food trucks live, or...

Just trying to come up with an algorithm that simplifies the loot calculations should that be necessary in the future.

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Re: New Newsletter 8 years 9 months ago #110

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Druegar wrote:

Brad Mortensen wrote: what if we added a fifth dungeon?

Where would this 5th dungeon be placed?
Hall A is not a viable answer.


And whence will volunteers come for this fifth dungeon?
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Re: New Newsletter 8 years 9 months ago #111

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Kirk Bauer wrote:

Mike Steele wrote:

Harlax wrote: The other alternative would be to make more use of trophies in recipes. I'm guessing the Fallen Star Mushroom drained a fair number..


I'm very much in favor of this option. :)


Agreed! :)


No thanks. I wouldn't want to see this every year. I am not in favor of anything that would drive the rarity or price of Monster Trophy tokens up. I don't want to see new players get priced out of the transmutation program by not being able to make Golden Fleece trade tokens - transmutations are already expensive enough as is.

Having said all that, I am in favor of, and like very much, the 3 major changes cited at the very beginning of this thread.


I don't want to drive up price or rarity. I was responding to concerns that more guaranteed treasure plus a higher percentage of monster trophies would actually drive down rarity and price.
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Re: New Newsletter 8 years 9 months ago #112

bpsymington wrote:

Druegar wrote:

Brad Mortensen wrote: what if we added a fifth dungeon?

Where would this 5th dungeon be placed?
Hall A is not a viable answer.


And whence will volunteers come for this fifth dungeon?


If you build it, they will come. ;)

I think we just take over Lucas Oil Stadium, it's probably big enough. :)

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Re: New Newsletter 8 years 9 months ago #113

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Mike Steele wrote:

bpsymington wrote:

Druegar wrote:

Brad Mortensen wrote: what if we added a fifth dungeon?

Where would this 5th dungeon be placed?
Hall A is not a viable answer.


And whence will volunteers come for this fifth dungeon?


If you build it, they will come. ;)

I think we just take over Lucas Oil Stadium, it's probably big enough. :)


We need volunteers to build it too, so....
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Re: New Newsletter 8 years 9 months ago #114

jedibcg wrote:

Mike Steele wrote:

bpsymington wrote:

Druegar wrote:

Brad Mortensen wrote: what if we added a fifth dungeon?

Where would this 5th dungeon be placed?
Hall A is not a viable answer.


And whence will volunteers come for this fifth dungeon?


If you build it, they will come. ;)

I think we just take over Lucas Oil Stadium, it's probably big enough. :)


We need volunteers to build it too, so....


If we announce it they will come (and bring Shoeless Joe with them ;) )

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Re: New Newsletter 8 years 9 months ago #115

Brad Mortensen wrote:

Raven wrote:

Brad Mortensen wrote: Maybe it shouldn't be done by percentages, but by tickets.


If people are concerned about runs being purchased & "farmed" for the treasure, I think this would only exacerbate the situation.


My thought was, what if we added a fifth dungeon? Presumably that would allow for a 25% increase in players, so we should increase the number of trophies in the wild by 25%.

But, if we created a mega-HoP that doubled all your treasure pulls with the same number of people, then doubling the number of trophies given out wouldn't be a good thing. People are already concerned about what will happen just by guaranteeing three stamps...

Anyway, just a thought. If the goal is to keep from flooding the market with trophies, it seemed simpler than juggling percentages.

To be clear, I'm not suggesting trophies become completion tokens. I was suggesting a way to calculate how many to toss in the cement mixer with everything else.


I think 4 dungeons is plenty enough for 1 con. But we basically have 2 dungeons -- each with 2 variations. I know it would take more effort and planning, but 4 unique dungeons would be a whole lot of fun. There could still be 2 combat oriented and 2 puzzle oriented.

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Re: New Newsletter 8 years 9 months ago #116

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Brad Mortensen wrote:

Raven wrote:

Brad Mortensen wrote: Maybe it shouldn't be done by percentages, but by tickets.


If people are concerned about runs being purchased & "farmed" for the treasure, I think this would only exacerbate the situation.


My thought was, what if we added a fifth dungeon? Presumably that would allow for a 25% increase in players, so we should increase the number of trophies in the wild by 25%.

But, if we created a mega-HoP that doubled all your treasure pulls with the same number of people, then doubling the number of trophies given out wouldn't be a good thing. People are already concerned about what will happen just by guaranteeing three stamps...

Anyway, just a thought. If the goal is to keep from flooding the market with trophies, it seemed simpler than juggling percentages.

To be clear, I'm not suggesting trophies become completion tokens. I was suggesting a way to calculate how many to toss in the cement mixer with everything else.


I think 4 dungeons is plenty enough for 1 con. But we basically have 2 dungeons -- each with 2 variations. I know it would take more effort and planning, but 4 unique dungeons would be a whole lot of fun. There could still be 2 combat oriented and 2 puzzle oriented.


If we could find the space and volunteers, it would be neat to have the Dungeons we have now and add a retro dungeon each year.

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Re: New Newsletter 8 years 9 months ago #117

bpsymington wrote:

Druegar wrote:

Brad Mortensen wrote: what if we added a fifth dungeon?

Where would this 5th dungeon be placed?
Hall A is not a viable answer.


And whence will volunteers come for this fifth dungeon?

Yeah. TD has enough trouble getting enough volunteers now for its four dungeons (and I would argue that it still suffers significant issues with volunteer quality).

Staffing a fifth dungeon would make things even harder!

Mike Steele wrote: I think we just take over Lucas Oil Stadium, it's probably big enough. :)

Lucas Oil Stadium is a poor venue for TD in my opinion.

The location is inconvenient, for volunteers and players. Tokens are heavy and needing to lug them to Lucas Oil Stadium is a pain. Unless maybe if TD decides to relocate all the volunteers to the Crowne Plaza or Holiday Inn Express.

Secondly, Lucas Oil Stadium means a significant loss of visibility. It is out of the way so less new people are likely to get exposed to TD.

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Re: New Newsletter 8 years 9 months ago #118

The whole fifth-dungeon thing is a pipe-dream, and really far from the point I was trying to make. But, I'd be happy to see one, because that would mean our community of players and volunteers was growing.

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Re: New Newsletter 8 years 9 months ago #119

Brad Mortensen wrote: The whole fifth-dungeon thing is a pipe-dream, and really far from the point I was trying to make. But, I'd be happy to see one, because that would mean our community of players and volunteers was growing.


I expect Jeff finds a way to expand further before long, the demand is there.

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Re: New Newsletter 8 years 9 months ago #120

Kirk Bauer wrote:

Mike Steele wrote:

Harlax wrote: The other alternative would be to make more use of trophies in recipes. I'm guessing the Fallen Star Mushroom drained a fair number..


I'm very much in favor of this option. :)


Agreed! :)


I like seeing monster bits used in low to mid level transmutes.

I'd be happy to see each bit be required in a yearly transmute of some sort. It adds a balance of "how many X do I need if it costs me more bits"

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