TOPIC: GT run 2015 finally full

I just opened 10 packs I got from Matthew H. and sadly no GT.

If Jeff knows there are 3 still at TD HQ then how does he know which packs they are in.

Phiswiz wrote: If Jeff knows there are 3 still at TD HQ then how does he know which packs they are in.

The way I have heard it works is that there are groups of tokens.

40 groups with one GT in each group. The GT pack is randomly mixed into the group of tokens. It may be near the beginning of the group, the end or someplace in the middle. True Dungeon has no idea where it is after randomization.

So, how Jeff can tell that there are 3 GT remaining is by the fact that there are 3 groups of tokens unsold that each are guaranteed to have a GT somewhere in them.

Take that with a grain of salt because it is only hearsay but it would make sense.

Phiswiz wrote: If Jeff knows there are 3 still at TD HQ then how does he know which packs they are in.

Practically, I'm sure True Dungeon adds Golden Tickets to packs, or orders special packs with Golden Tickets in them, rather than relying on the factory to put GTs in one pack out of 1,500 or whatever the ratio is.

When dealing with an outsourced manufacturer it's probably not practical to ask them to randomly insert some ultra low rarity tokens into some packs - too much chance for error, and no way to check (you could open 1,000 packs and not find any GTs - but this wouldn't really tell you anything about whether the factory put in too many, or not enough, GTs).

So, at least at some point I would guess TD knows exactly which packs the Golden Tickets are in.

I guess with the tickets being either not found or sold it would be a good time for anyone sitting on unopened packs to check them.

Matthew Hayward wrote:
So, at least at some point I would guess TD knows exactly which packs the Golden Tickets are in.

If this is the case then receiving a GT is not really random. Instead it is a conscience choice by the TD staff on whether to include a GT infused pack into someone's order.

My educated guess is there is 24-32k left to sell. So that would mean probability of 3-4 left. So if I was him I guess low and say 3. Just to be safe

Phiswiz wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote:
So, at least at some point I would guess TD knows exactly which packs the Golden Tickets are in.

If this is the case then receiving a GT is not really random. Instead it is a conscience choice by the TD staff on whether to include a GT infused pack into someone's order.

Just because they put one into a pack and reseal it does not mean that the person filling orders knows the pack in which it is hidden.

Stormie wrote: I just pulled one today.

Congrats, Stormie! Looking forward to seeing you at the runs on Wed eve!

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Phiswiz wrote: If Jeff knows there are 3 still at TD HQ then how does he know which packs they are in.

Practically, I'm sure True Dungeon adds Golden Tickets to packs, or orders special packs with Golden Tickets in them, rather than relying on the factory to put GTs in one pack out of 1,500 or whatever the ratio is.

When dealing with an outsourced manufacturer it's probably not practical to ask them to randomly insert some ultra low rarity tokens into some packs - too much chance for error, and no way to check (you could open 1,000 packs and not find any GTs - but this wouldn't really tell you anything about whether the factory put in too many, or not enough, GTs).

So, at least at some point I would guess TD knows exactly which packs the Golden Tickets are in.

It is my understanding (no knowledge just what I have heard) that even the UR's are seeded by TD not the factory. The factory used to do it but the distribution was awful so TD staff started going it. Again I don't know if this is still how it is done but that is how either I read it on the forums or someone (don't remember who) at TD told me years ago.

Phiswiz wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote:
So, at least at some point I would guess TD knows exactly which packs the Golden Tickets are in.

If this is the case then receiving a GT is not really random. Instead it is a conscience choice by the TD staff on whether to include a GT infused pack into someone's order.

After TD makes the special packs they could be mixed in with the rest in a manner that obscures which is which - so I don't agree that this situation necessitates a TD staff member deciding whether to include a GT in a given order.

That being said - it's a logical possibility - in any case I'm willing to trust TD to do it in a fair manner.

Phiswiz wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote:
So, at least at some point I would guess TD knows exactly which packs the Golden Tickets are in.

If this is the case then receiving a GT is not really random. Instead it is a conscience choice by the TD staff on whether to include a GT infused pack into someone's order.

Absolutely not! The GT is inserted into a pack. The pack is then placed in a 10 pack. The 10 pack is randomized with hundreds of other 10 packs. At that point nobody knows where the GT is located. Except for the fact that it is located within the set group of tokens that contain one GT.

10 packs are broken apart to fill orders of less than 10,20,30 etc, token packs. This is how a person can get a GT by ordering a single pack of tokens.