TOPIC: Rod of Seven Parts Character Cards are HERE

Raven wrote:

Druegar wrote: While under the influence of Fight After Death, 0 through -48 HP = alive
Whether under the influence of Fight After Death or not, -49 HP or lower = dead
When not under the influence of Fight After Death, 0 or lower HP = dead

(EDIT: Misread the original post, so my earlier response is irrelevant.)

Personally, I think it would be cool to have the Prestige Barbarian, under the effect of "Fight After Death" be the one exception to the rule of "Dead people can't administer their own potions."

If the Barb technically isn't "Dead" until -49, then I could see a PoDD not working.

OK, -49 then.

We are sure going to use this affect and defeat the NM True Grind, with ease I might add. Send those weakly monsters we will beat them all.

EN 429 wrote: So then the Elixir could be used as a potion to put him at full right? I guess this comes down to whether you could take an Elixir of life or PoDD while alive.

Those are two separate questions.

quoting from the TDb entry for Elixir of Life :

It can also be used by a living character to restore full hit points.

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Druegar wrote: Potion Death's Door
PDD restores a dead character to life. It's not a heal/cure potion.

PDD has no effect when consumed by living characters.

I'm oddly depressed by the Fighter (Duelist)'s special ability. It's hard enough keeping a good slide on the board for one turn, let alone two, with ten people crowding the table.

EDIT - And it should be 'after everyone else has slid', not 'as slid'.

Raywind wrote: it should be 'after everyone else has slid', not 'as slid'.

Um, Duelists always talk with a Cockney accent, so they would totally say, "after everyone else as slid, guv'na" because that's how they talk.

Yeah, that's the ticket...!

Druegar wrote:

EN 429 wrote: Is the barbarian really dead though?

While under the influence of Fight After Death, 0 through -48 HP = alive
Whether under the influence of Fight After Death or not, -49 HP or lower = dead
When not under the influence of Fight After Death, 0 or lower HP = dead

Technically, if it is Fight AFTER Death, then once you are below zero and still fighting you are dead, but not really quite sincerely dead until you get to -49.

Ah ha! The barbi is only MOSTLY dead!
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Can a Potion of Death's Door be used to recover from Fight After Death if the Berserker is between -1 and -48? This might be splitting hairs, but if Fight After Death prevents death "until the end of the room," and a PoDD "must be used in the room where the death occurred (TDb)," is there a opportunity to use a PoDD? Or does the Berserker technically die in the next room? Can one choose to end Fight After Death, or opt to fall on one's sword until at -49 HP?

Seras wrote: Can a Potion of Death's Door be used to recover from Fight After Death if the Berserker is between -1 and -48?

No
because:

EN 429 wrote: Is the barbarian really dead though?

Druegar wrote: While under the influence of Fight After Death, 0 through -48 HP = alive
Whether under the influence of Fight After Death or not, -49 HP or lower = dead
When not under the influence of Fight After Death, 0 or lower HP = dead

Seras wrote: Fight After Death prevents death "until the end of the room," and a PoDD "must be used in the room where the death occurred (TDb)," is there a opportunity to use a PoDD?

The 'zerk dies in the room where Fight After Death was used (and not properly recovered from). If the 'zerk was the last party member standing, the 'zerk is dead dead.

If there was another party member available and that person had access to a PDD and that person very quickly told the DM in that room s/he was feeding the PDD to the 'zerk as the party was being pushed into the next room and the DM accepted the PDD token, then yes.

KINDA seems like there should be an OFFICIAL yes or no on the validity of this PDD token use yes/no here.

Druegar wrote:

Seras wrote: Can a Potion of Death's Door be used to recover from Fight After Death if the Berserker is between -1 and -48?

No
because:

EN 429 wrote: Is the barbarian really dead though?

Druegar wrote: While under the influence of Fight After Death, 0 through -48 HP = alive
Whether under the influence of Fight After Death or not, -49 HP or lower = dead
When not under the influence of Fight After Death, 0 or lower HP = dead

Seras wrote: Fight After Death prevents death "until the end of the room," and a PoDD "must be used in the room where the death occurred (TDb)," is there a opportunity to use a PoDD?

The 'zerk dies in the room where Fight After Death was used (and not properly recovered from). If the 'zerk was the last party member standing, the 'zerk is dead dead.

If there was another party member available and that person had access to a PDD and that person very quickly told the DM in that room s/he was feeding the PDD to the 'zerk as the party was being pushed into the next room and the DM accepted the PDD token, then yes.

Or the other party member smacks the barbarian until he is DEAD DEAD and then gives him the PoDD

Arcanist Kolixela wrote: KINDA seems like there should be an OFFICIAL yes or no on the validity of this PDD token use yes/no here.

This will be included in the next version of the DMG (which should be posted Soon^TM ) and was approved by Jeff:

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While under the influence of fight after death, a berserker is only "mostly dead" until either reaching at least -49 HP or pushed into the next room while at 0 HP or lower. Effects that trigger on death cannot fire until the berserker is completely dead. Therefore, Potion Death's Door cannot be used until the berserker is completely dead.

Because Elixir of Life can be used either to restore a dead character to life (and full HP) or to fully heal a living character, it may be used at any time.

When used to revive a completely dead character, both Potion Death's Door and Elixir of Life must be administered by another living character. Life-restoring potions must be used in the room where the character died. The aforementioned potions must be administered before moving into the next room if the berserker dies due to negative HP not being healed before time runs out in a room.

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Is there any part of that which needs to be clarified?