TOPIC: Amulet of Wonder effect for 2014 adventures is...

I am kind of glad the wing effect was changed. I can only imagine how they could have 'broken' a few puzzles.

My fear when it comes to the random effect is that someone will roll for the AoW effect and decide they don't want the result. They equip something different, then pass the AoW to the next person in the party, repeating this process until they get a result that they like.

I don't think the danger of that is any greater than a player getting a roll he likes and then passing it to another player so they get to roll as well.

The coaches already have to watch for that kind of thing. In the end though, cheaters are only cheating themselves of the full experience and challenge.

TD trusts players to track their own HP. That is an ever bigger deal than a few points of AC or a some extra treasure tokens, IMHO.

That would not be allowed, the way Coaching works. Once the Coach sees your AoW and you roll the die, that slot is locked in.

Raven wrote: That would not be allowed, the way Coaching works. Once the Coach sees your AoW and you roll the die, that slot is locked in.

And I hope this is how it is done. Raven gets a biscuit

Wasn't it stayed earlier that the roll would be made on the practice room...therefore your build is already locked in?

Adam Guay wrote: Wasn't it stayed earlier that the roll would be made on the practice room...therefore your build is already locked in?

The TDb description used to say the roll was made during "training" which, admittedly, was ambiguous. It now more accurately says during "coaching" because the die, as it always has been done, will be rolled before filling out your spot on the party card.

Druegar wrote:

Adam Guay wrote: Wasn't it stayed earlier that the roll would be made on the practice room...therefore your build is already locked in?

The TDb description used to say the roll was made during "training" which, admittedly, was ambiguous. It now more accurately says during "coaching" because the die, as it always has been done, will be rolled before filling out your spot on the party card.

Note to self: bring a D6 to coaching shifts.

That's fine for backup, but a special wooden die will be provided.

Picc wrote:

Druegar wrote:

Adam Guay wrote: Wasn't it stayed earlier that the roll would be made on the practice room...therefore your build is already locked in?

The TDb description used to say the roll was made during "training" which, admittedly, was ambiguous. It now more accurately says during "coaching" because the die, as it always has been done, will be rolled before filling out your spot on the party card.

Note to self: bring a D6 to coaching shifts.

Note to self quickly learn sleight of hand and find a magical die with only 5's and 6's on it.......all this in just a few weeks!

kurtreznor wrote:

Druegar wrote: Per Jeff, if the AoW roll results in a HoP effect and your character already has a HoP effect and is 4th-level, you get the +1 level effect instead.

I will attempt to summarize this, Pelor help me...

For 2014, when either equipping an actual Amulet of Wonder or under the AoW effect, you roll a die to determine the effect:

1. +2 to AC
2. +3 to AC
3. +3 To Hit on all attack slides
4. +10 to max HP
5. Horn of Plenty effect (three Treasure Chips per stamp)
6. +1 Character level for that adventure

However:

• If your character is both 5th-level and under a HoP-like effect*, if you roll either 5 or 6, reroll until you roll 1-4.
• If your character is 4th level and you've got a HoP-like effect* and you roll a 5, it counts as a 6 (you get to play at 5th-level)
• If your character is 5th level but you don't have a HoP-like effect* and you roll a 6, it counts as a 5 (you get the HoP effect)

Is there any permutation, combination, or convolution that doesn't cover?


*whether from equipping a actual Horn of Plenty, being on a Golden Ticket run, under the influence of an artifact, or anything that grants three Treasure Chips per Treasure Stamp

Im sorry, one last wrinkle; do we have to decide on all equipment before rolling? Since this will mostly come up with my parties where we can all roll, and if we have a total of five HoP, give them to the people who didnt roll 5 or 6.

oh, and another clarification: 'phantom' characters (when a player wears more than one wrist-band so the party can run with fewer players) are allowed to equip treasure tokens and party enhancers (synergy, etc). will we be allowed to equip those phantom characters with an AoW to try for the HoP effect? and can they 'wear' a +1 level item to double chances at the HoP?
my opinion: phantoms should be allowed to wear an AoW and roll for the chance, wearing anything else should be a 'no'...because that could start to open up a lot of issues/questions/etc. but I will happily give my phantom a charm of heroism to double the chance if it is allowed.

Wouldn't it just be easier to say:

The AoW wearer may choose to keep the effect of the result rolled or select any one effect of a lower result.

That seems to cover all the possible permutations, short of any Artifact craziness.

kurtreznor wrote: will we be allowed to equip those phantom characters with an AoW to try for the HoP effect?

Per Jeff, no

kurtreznor wrote: and can they 'wear' a +1 level item to double chances at the HoP?

Per Jeff, no