TOPIC: Anticipating Treasure Pulls

Toran wrote: With Golden Fleeces usually priced at around $100, I was surprised at the low price of last year's monster bits. I did end up transmuting two for Shirts of, uh, Anti-Retribution Damage, but plan to use gold for future shirts.

I still place treasure draws in the $4-$5 range because of the chance of getting gold, the value of Oil of Enchantment and Argonite etc. If monster bits were consistently worth $10 each, then I think that would make treasure draws solidly worth $5.

Frankly, it might be easier to just offer to purchase (offsite) all of the tokens from someone who isn't interested in playing again after they've used their draws. Say a flat rate of $10-$20 depending.

I think the average treasure draw is worth well under $5. The average rare is probably worth a dollar or two, uncommons less than that, and ingredient tokens are around $5. And if you had tons of draws, it would take a lot of time and effort to sell them all off. Now, if there were a great 4C token that could increase values, but values might actually drop further since there will likely be a lot more tokens drawn next year due to more runs and the charms of good fortune.

Mike Steele wrote: ...values might actually drop further since there will likely be a lot more tokens drawn next year due to more runs and the charms of good fortune.

This is a possible problem in general. Everyone wants lots of pulls, but simply as a matter of supply and demand the average value of "treasure" will therefore go down. The result is that the average player - who may only get 3 draws or less - will come to see treasure pulls as highly overrated.

Anything that could diminish the perceived value of True Dungeon in new players or the average players' minds makes me concerned.

Although I love that I'll get to try the HoP effect of the AoW this year, for the sake of TD I slightly wish Jeff had chosen a different effect. And I really hope there are no more "get more pulls" tokens printed for a very long time.

It all depends on what is being drawn. If more rares and uncommons are pulled in will have less effect on the price of trophies. We shall see.

jedibcg wrote: It all depends on what is being drawn. If more rares and uncommons are pulled in will have less effect on the price of trophies. We shall see.

all depends what is in other boxes
If Jeff does a box like the treasure map box(older tokens)..more people might use it there and monster trophies could increase in value

That is what I am saying we have no idea what is going to happen. Speculation of the value of tokens is just that speculation. There will be more people which also means more pulls. But they might be more new people which won't value trophies at all and will sell them cheap. They also might be new and want old stuff driving up the value on tokens. I just don't think we are going to know much until tokens start coming out of the boxes or Jeff breaks down what is in the boxes and how many. I am not suggesting he do that just saying we don't know.

jedibcg wrote: That is what I am saying we have no idea what is going to happen. Speculation of the value of tokens is just that speculation. There will be more people which also means more pulls. But they might be more new people which won't value trophies at all and will sell them cheap. They also might be new and want old stuff driving up the value on tokens. I just don't think we are going to know much until tokens start coming out of the boxes or Jeff breaks down what is in the boxes and how many. I am not suggesting he do that just saying we don't know.

Jeff might not even know yet

What if there was a box that had more ... Something- old tokens, higher % of purps, more monster bits, ? Would you be willing to spend TWO treasure coins? Or more?

Note: this is a wild hair of my own devising, not anything from anybody that matters around here. Just curious what ppl think.

binia wrote: What if there was a box that had more ... Something- old tokens, higher % of purps, more monster bits, ? Would you be willing to spend TWO treasure coins? Or more?

Note: this is a wild hair of my own devising, not anything from anybody that matters around here. Just curious what ppl think.

I would maybe take one or two pulls per run..most would still go toward monster bits

binia wrote: What if there was a box that had more ... Something- old tokens, higher % of purps, more monster bits, ? Would you be willing to spend TWO treasure coins? Or more?

Note: this is a wild hair of my own devising, not anything from anybody that matters around here. Just curious what ppl think.

I'd need to see at least rough odds but IMO I hope we don't get to the point where we have that much info about the treasure boxes (really I kind of hope it stays with a single mix. The idea a monster bit or healing or rare heavy box already seems a bit less like rolling for treasure then selecting a reward for my tastes as it implies a "responsible" choice I'd rather not have to make but that might just be me).

binia wrote: What if there was a box that had more ... Something- old tokens, higher % of purps, more monster bits, ? Would you be willing to spend TWO treasure coins? Or more?

Note: this is a wild hair of my own devising, not anything from anybody that matters around here. Just curious what ppl think.

The higher percent would have to be at least double that of the other box or else it would not be worth it.

I would still go with the monster bits. I can't see a situation where the old tokens or purps would be of a caliber to be worth twice as much as simply getting extra monster bits in a normal treasure mix.

lazlo_hollyfeld1985 wrote:

jedibcg wrote: It all depends on what is being drawn. If more rares and uncommons are pulled in will have less effect on the price of trophies. We shall see.

all depends what is in other boxes
If Jeff does a box like the treasure map box(older tokens)..more people might use it there and monster trophies could increase in value

I'd be interested in a box of older tokens, but only if it had a better mix of tokens. I know some people pulled great stuff, but we did a lot of pulls and got mostly commons. Although if one treasure coin got you a bunch of pulls it would be more appealing.