TOPIC: Latest 2009 Ultra Rares

<br />---<br /><br />Once per an adventure items are a bad idea.  Sorry!  It is too easy to cheat!<br /><br />---<br /><br />

<br /><br />There's a VERY simple solution to this.  We HAVE a player card which is carried from room to room, WHICH is given to the DM.  ONE SMALL BOX, near the Druid solves it.  DM sees player transform into Dire Wolf, DM puts a BIG X in box.<br /><br />Problem solved.

Jim the problem then comes that each year new tokens that are One shots means changing the Player Sheets every year. I like the idea of that though if it could be made to work and doesn't cost Jeff and co too much!<br />

I am glad to see that the Rings (maybe should be singular now?) of Fire Elemental Command was changed back to one slot.  It was nerfed too much before, especially when you can accomplish the Fireshield aspect in a much easier (though more tokens) kind of way.<br /><br />I also think the +2 Dagger of Venom will be a nice upgrade for my Rogue, as I too am one of those parties who missed the Nightshade's Blade and my Rogue is currently using a +1 Short Sword.

Kinda makes the Rogue want to botch the trap though...counter to overall game goal!  And kinda makes this a MUST have for the Rogue too!<br /><br />And what is to stop the WIZ from casting KNOCK before the Rogue even gets to the box...<br /><br />I can see some cut-throat gaming over the T-Box thanks to the new lucky-charm!<br /><br />

I think the party card could be adjusted to have a space where you mark off once per adventure items.  It's already done that way for Masterwork Thieves Tools is it not?<br /><br />Regarding the possibilities with the luck charm, I guess the rogue would have to ponder whether or not the token in the thieves box would be better than either one of the two extra that they would get to draw.<br /><br />Kim

<br />Jim the problem then comes that each year new tokens that are One shots means changing the Player Sheets every year. I like the idea of that though if it could be made to work and doesn't cost Jeff and co too much!<br /><br />

<br /><br />Well I'm not advocating Jeff spending more money, but I believe there was mention that the player's cards were going to change (true?).  If so, a perfect opportunity to create a small section near EACH character type that would allow for ONE shot items to be properly marked off.  They don't even have to be labelled.  Each DM would know what it meant and if someone was CAUGHT cheating, then KILL them then and there.  Maybe some of them would learn a lesson and not spoil it for us who try HARD not to cheat.<br /><br />Even if the cards are not changing, an X in the Druid box STILL could mean that the Circlet was used.

<br />I think the party card could be adjusted to have a space where you mark off once per adventure items.  It's already done that way for Masterwork Thieves Tools is it not?<br /><br />Regarding the possibilities with the luck charm, I guess the rogue would have to ponder whether or not the token in the thieves box would be better than either one of the two extra that they would get to draw.<br /><br />Kim<br />

<br /><br />How about the DM writing "Druid used such and such" on the back of the player card in permanent marker along with the room number? Then there is no mystery erasing of the player card between rooms.<br />

If they have time to that would be great. I think the boxes is better and they should be labeled because there will be a time when a DM won't know what item is for what class and marks down in the wrong box or will go okay see you later!

This needs to be clarified: does the Charm work for traps?  The wording currently says treasure generators, and it's my understanding that that refers to treasure boxes for solving a puzzle or defeating a monster.

<br />But, if you draw a dagger of venom and don't want it I'll gladly take it!   =D<br />

<br />As long as you have the +2 Sling of Doom to trade <br /><br />But for those of you saying you would rather it than the +1 Shortsword.  Unless you are a Sliding God (tm) and hit 20 regularly, the shortsword +1 is just as good as the Dagger.  Dagger +2 Avg Dmg is 4.5 , SS+1 Avg Dmg is 4.5, and it wont cost you a PYP.

<br />This needs to be clarified: does the Charm work for traps?  The wording currently says treasure generators, and it's my understanding that that refers to treasure boxes for solving a puzzle or defeating a monster.<br />

<br /><br />Ah...you mean does it allow for more treasure tokens out of the box...not does the damage caused by a failed Rogue Box count as "hostile damage".<br /><br />Okay...no...like the Horn of Plenty this item will not allow the Rogue to take more than one token out of the Rogue Box if the box is successfully disarmed -- and the Rogue managed to get some hostile damage somewhere else in the room.

I was asking if Rogue Box damage counted as hostile damage...not extra draws from it because of having the charm...