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Re: 2009 Token Suggestions GO HERE!!! 15 years 7 months ago #97

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Medallion = kewl idea.  I would say that effects, like bardsong, should not stack.  Great UR idea.<br /><br />
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Re: 2009 Token Suggestions GO HERE!!! 15 years 7 months ago #98

My only question is about the potential stackable nature of some of the character classes.  For instance, if someone was using the Medallion of Stewardship and duplicated the Bard class, would the Bard Song ability for the two bards stack?  Also... if you had two Rogues would they both have a crack at the skill test?  How would you decide which one got the treasures from the chest?<br /><br />While I think the Medallion is a good idea, it's got the potential to be a bit of a headache in some situations.

<br /><br />I think there would need to be specific rulings in some cases. The simplier the bettter. Maybe only certain classes can have stewards?<br /><br />

My only question is about the potential stackable nature of some of the character classes.  For instance, if someone was using the Medallion of Stewardship and duplicated the Bard class, would the Bard Song ability for the two bards stack?  Also... if you had two Rogues would they both have a crack at the skill test?  How would you decide which one got the treasures from the chest?<br /><br />While I think the Medallion is a good idea, it's got the potential to be a bit of a headache in some situations.<br /><br />-Toby

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Re: 2009 Token Suggestions GO HERE!!! 15 years 7 months ago #99

I'd say the Medallion is GREAT - if it was in any other slot (or even two - like say taking up two ring slots?)<br /><br />...the necklace slot is just choked enough in my opinion!
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Re: 2009 Token Suggestions GO HERE!!! 15 years 7 months ago #100

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<br />I'd say the Medallion is GREAT - if it was in any other slot (or even two - like say taking up two ring slots?)<br /><br />...the necklace slot is just choked enough in my opinion!<br />

<br /><br />Exactly!  Think of some of the best URs out there: HoP, MoG, AoW - People have to choose only one really kewl effect, so they are limited.<br />
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Re: 2009 Token Suggestions GO HERE!!! 15 years 7 months ago #101

Instead of an UR, the Medallion of Stewardship could be an amulet of wonder effect for a future year.  If it creates too many issues, the ability would just go away after trying it.  If it turned out to be a really cool effect, then the token might be allowed to show up for regular play. 
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Re: 2009 Token Suggestions GO HERE!!! 15 years 7 months ago #102

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<br />I'd say the Medallion is GREAT - if it was in any other slot (or even two - like say taking up two ring slots?)<br /><br />...the necklace slot is just choked enough in my opinion!<br />

<br /><br />Exactly!  Think of some of the best URs out there: HoP, MoG, AoW - People have to choose only one really kewl effect, so they are limited.<br /><br />

<br /><br />Exactly why I said - move it...<br /><br />Too many great things in the NECK slot...give us some balance in other slots...make it a Girdle or something else to make equal tough decisions...<br /><br />This will put Power Creep on notice!
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Re: 2009 Token Suggestions GO HERE!!! 15 years 7 months ago #103

I'd say the Medallion is GREAT - if it was in any other slot (or even two - like say taking up two ring slots?)<br /><br />

...the necklace slot is just choked enough in my opinion!<br /><br /><br />Exactly!  Think of some of the best URs out there: HoP, MoG, AoW - People have to choose only one really kewl effect, so they are limited.<br /><br /><br /><br />Exactly why I said - move it...<br /><br />Too many great things in the NECK slot...give us some balance in other slots...make it a Girdle or something else to make equal tough decisions...<br /><br />This will put Power Creep on notice!

<br /><br /><br />originally i choose that spot as kind of a draw back to having a second class(two clerics are awsome!!), but i do agree that the neck slot is over crowded. so what slot should it be. Ring perhaps, maybe bracers....... or Cloak of stewardship. i think i like the cloak spot now.
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Re: 2009 Token Suggestions GO HERE!!! 15 years 7 months ago #104

I think there are (at least) TWO BIG logistics problems with this idea for a token:<br /><br />#1 What will it do to the coaches?<br />#2 How will a party decide which if multiples gets to choose...<br /><br />#1 - having to track down a spare card - means a coach has to leave a table and go to the back of the room and search for a specific CHAR card...not terrible - but walking away from the table has been eliminated pretty much today.  This would bring it back - or require a runner to get the card...<br /><br />#2 - what happens if 3 or more players have this token and want to use it - now the group has 3 fighters and 2 clerics...  And piggybacking the earlier comment - what happens if a group takes two rogues and both want to do the challenge?<br /><br />I'd say as neat as it sounds...the headaches are not worth making it.<br /><br /><br /><br />
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Re: 2009 Token Suggestions GO HERE!!! 15 years 7 months ago #105

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#1 What will it do to the coaches?<br />#2 How will a party decide which if multiples gets to choose...<br /><br />#1 - having to track down a spare card - means a coach has to leave a table and go to the back of the room and search for a specific CHAR card...not terrible - but walking away from the table has been eliminated pretty much today.  This would bring it back - or require a runner to get the card...<br /><br />#2 - what happens if 3 or more players have this token and want to use it - now the group has 3 fighters and 2 clerics...  And piggybacking the earlier comment - what happens if a group takes two rogues and both want to do the challenge?<br /><br />I'd say as neat as it sounds...the headaches are not worth making it.

<br /><br />All these could be answeard in the Token guide before hand.<br /><br />#1 Have extra character cards on hand.<br />#2 Highest Character level gets to choose or roll a dice. This will encourge making your egroup before hand.<br /><br />I really think a little work before hand would go a long way with this token.
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Re: 2009 Token Suggestions GO HERE!!! 15 years 7 months ago #106

There are already extra cards on hand - it is just the time it takes to go get them...and then the WHAT IF factors...like what if they change their minds...what if the card is hard to find...or twisted up...etc.<br /><br />So are you suggesting only one person gets to use the item at a table?  Not allowing everyone to use the token is yet another can of worms that will not make folks happy....<br /><br />Good idea - not so easy to implement or execute.
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Re: 2009 Token Suggestions GO HERE!!! 15 years 7 months ago #107

While I like the title, I think Jeff has it only one per class for a reason. That can really be messing with balance.<br />And having people roll off is just going to cause upset people. Especially after someone may have worked hard to trade or spent $250 to do PYP to get it. It'd be like telling folks only one person per party can use Horn, or amulet of wonder. Sure the one person who gets to use it is happy but the others aren't.<br /><br />I don't think there should be an item that messes with character classes balance. <br />
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Re: 2009 Token Suggestions GO HERE!!! 15 years 7 months ago #108

<br /><br />#2 Highest Character level gets to choose or roll a dice. This will encourge making your e-group beforehand.<br /><br />

<br /><br />Yes, but that only works if you're <br /><br />A.  Lucky enough to be able to get a full block of tickets and the group of people beforehand<br />B.  Able to come to an equitable agreement.  Not everyone will necessarily abide by such things, not to mention it takes up precious time to do such.
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