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<br />Just don't put your bag of holding in the portable hole!<br /><br />

<br /><br />I once had a player in my dungeon that actually put a portable hole into a bag of holding.  The other party members were yelling "NOOOOO" just as the lights went out for everyone...

Hmm... suggestion for new tokens... ok.<br /><br />Scroll of enchanting.<br /><br />With proper monitary funds (and the master enchanters aid) improve the magical propertys of an item by one.<br /><br />A +1 armor or shield would cost this scroll, 1000 gold, and a basic armor or shield.<br />A +1 Weapon would cost 2000 gold and this scroll.<br /><br />I request a basic item specificly for one purpose... Light Hammer.  Same Damage as the Dagger and useable by the cleric.<br /><br />I make only one item suggestion of extreme rarity.<br /><br />Crown of Leadership.  One, and only one, per convention.  Increase party size by 1.  Limit one per party.  Side effect: everything becomes far more difficult to everybody in the party as nightmare mode is enforced with this item.  You may use only one healing item per person per room.<br /><br />Must be earned/found inside the dungeon.

<br />Just don't put your bag of holding in the portable hole!<br /><br />

<br /><br />Hence my comment about combining the two items to destroy the monster in the room.  When I play D&D I like to have a spare portable hole and bag of holding around as a last ditch defeat-the-too-powerful-monster or as a last resort escape mechanism.  If you're fleeing from a monster drop the portable hole on the floor, step back, and as the monster approaches toss your bag of holding into it.  Voila!  Monster gone!  It doesn't kill the monster (or yourself), but it does get rid of the monster (or yourself).

Can someone explain the bag/hole phenomena y'all keep mentioning?<br />Do the two things cancel each other out? Do they explode? Does the universe get torn. Does a blackhole appear and drain all into it?<br />

A rift in the Prime Material Plane opens and sucks things in...

So how does one store a portable hole?

fold it up and put it in your backpack!

So once folded its benign?

<br />So once folded its benign?<br />

  The bad stuff only happens when you put one inside of the other.  A portable hole folds up into a cloth roughly the size of a bandanna.  The two items can safely touch each other (such as setting a folded portable hole on top of a bag of holding).  It's just when one goes inside of the other that it gets nasty.<br /><br />Here is the full description of a portable hole from the 2nd Edition Dungeon Master's Book:<br /><br />A portable hole is a circle of magical cloth spun from the webs of a phase spider interwoven with strands of ether and beams of Astral plane luminaries. When opened fully, a portable hole is 6 feet in diameter, but it can be folded as small as a pocket handkerchief. When spread upon any surface, it causes an extra-dimensional hole 10 feet deep to come into being. This hole can be "picked up" from inside or out by simply taking hold of the edges of the magical cloth and folding it up. Either way, the entrance disappears, but anything inside the hole remains.<br /> The only oxygen in the hole is that allowed by creation of the space, so creatures requiring the gas cannot remain inside for more than a turn or so without opening the space again by means of the magical cloth. The cloth does not accumulate weight even if its hole is filled (with gold, for example). Each portable hole opens on its own particular nondimensional space. If a bag of holding is placed within a portable hole, a rift to the Astral Plane is torn in the space, and the bag and the cloth are sucked into the void and forever lost. If a portable hole is placed within a bag of holding, it opens a gate to another plane, and the hole, bag, and any creatures within a 10-foot radius are drawn to the Astral Plane, the portable hole and bag of holding being destroyed in the process.

Oh!<br />Okay. Thank you that was very informative.<br /><br />The only familiarity I had with it was a 04' tavern prop which was a 12" circle of black cloth. I didn't realize they were that big. The 12" 'portable hole' was favorite prop of mine because it was extremely simple and yet in tavern setting quite convincing. I didn't realize it was supposed to be a fabric. Just thought it was, well a hole. *little laugh*<br />Many thanks. <br />

My husband had a nasty run in with a half orc sorcerer who caused him to lose his second portable hole. Hubby had gotten so mad at the half-orc that when the sorcerer tried to use rope-trick to escape he climbed up after him. Needless to say there was a nasty expolsion and the result was funny for everyone but him...

2nd....my goodness!<br /><br />I was lucky to see one in every 3rd or 4th campaign!