TOPIC: QTR 2021 Beta

Should the Skull of Cavadar text be in Blue in the document? I guess I would assume the "eldritch" color

Druegar wrote: The recipes for Mage Medallion and Ashenne's Arch-Mage Medallion have been adjusted.

Matthew Hayward wrote: Are those live in the doc?

Nope. I'm merely reporting that an adjustment has been made and the next time a beta comes out, that change will be in effect. Didn't intend to mislead.

Wade Schwendemann (Dr. Uid) wrote: Should the Skull of Cavadar text be in Blue in the document? I guess I would assume the "eldritch" color

I try to match the token's title color in the QTR, not the backing color. There may be occasional exceptions (intentional or otherwise), but that's the intended style.

Page 16 Bard Instruments:

Trouper's Lute is listed as +4 Fort Save, and should be +4 Reflex Save.

Minor, but as long as you are making changes.

Arcanist Kolixela wrote:

jedibcg vuvuzela hater wrote:

Arcanist Kolixela wrote:
The change to LoDS != the destruction to the MEC. The 'errata' changes it from a $400 token to only worth using as a transmute bit.

LoDS is still usable, MEC is not

Part of that 'loss' in value is that it is being reprinted though not just the nerf. I believe LoDS was near $400 before its reprint as well and is not that again.

IIRC it was 250-300

And yes, the reprint is part of that loss.

But if the token errata stayed and the reprint was removed the value of the MEC would not recover to $400 EVER. It's a MASSIVE CHANGE.

I don't expect the new MEC will EVER breach $150 in cost, even 10 years from now, given how terrible the change is

Please stop yelling (all caps). You've made your case (several times). Move on.

We'll make a second recipe for Mage Medallion that requires the 2014 MEC and has slightly lowered Trade item costs.

Cranston wrote: Trouper's Lute is listed as +4 Fort Save, and should be +4 Reflex Save.

fixed

Druegar wrote: The recipes for FoP: Horror and Reaver have been adjusted.

Figurine of Power: Horror

• 5 different Completion tokens (any rarity) from any of these Virtual True Dungeon Adventures:
• • VTD1 (a and/or b)
  • VTD2 (a and/or b)
  • VTD3 (a and/or b)
  • VTD4 (a and/or b)
  • VTD5 (a and/or b)
• 500 GP

Figurine of Power: Reaver

• 5 different Rare Completion tokens from any of these Virtual True Dungeon Adventures:
• • VTD1 (a and/or b)
  • VTD2 (a and/or b)
  • VTD3 (a and/or b)
  • VTD4 (a and/or b)
  • VTD5 (a and/or b)
• 1,000 GP Gold Bar (not 1k in “loose change”)
  plus ONLY ONE of the following:
• • Hitchhiking Ghost: Bog
  • Hitchhiking Ghost: Flog
  • Hitchhiking Ghost: Gog
  • Hitchhiking Ghost: Mog
  • Hitchhiking Ghost: Shog

(sorry for the double-bullets, hopefully it's not too confusing)

FYI: I'm not going to manually post all the recipe adjustments, but this is a special situation which I thought warranted posting these specific changes ahead of a new QTR beta.

Respectfully, please consider dropping the gold requirement entirely.

Reason: it wasn't in original recipe.
Reason: these transmutes were/are drivers for VTD including the ones with less desirable completion tokens and upping their cost (if only by the gold) makes the cost/benefit that much harder.

Phil Norton wrote: The Fighter Relic/Legendary are high on both DS and DP

Rationale: Previous legendaries like Paladin require less on each by 40%

🤔 While the quantities have shifted, the AoNM and VAoNM seem pretty balanced when compared to the values of tokens needed to make the PotY and RPotEY.

jedibcg vuvuzela hater wrote: 25 Dwarven Steel for Amulet of Noble Might seems very high. Rational is only Welfor's Legendary required more at 28. I think the average on DS for Legendaries is 15, the relic should be less, imo.

Agreed. The average DS on the other relics is 8.555 and the other two melee based (pally/barb) are 15. It seems reasonable to make this 15.

PS also seems high compared to previous years. Average is 13.14. 15 would not be unreasonable.

EDIT: I see I missed Druegar's comment that the relic is being adjusted.

Can someone remind me what FoP: Horror does? I couldn’t find a description of its effect.

Dave Autzen wrote: Can someone remind me what FoP: Horror does? I couldn’t find a description of its effect.

6 Points Darkrift I believe