TOPIC: Google Doc for 2017-2018 Season Treasure Pulls

Eldar wrote: Yeah I had significantly worse luck with the clear bags as my relic and UR from pulls were both out of my blue 50 bag and I got nothing relatively worth noting out of the other 3 clear bags. I would like to think this is just poor RNG, but based on what others have been saying maybe it wasn't?

Wasn't your relic and UR out of the same blue bag?

mike coon wrote: I had one sealed felt bag, and one sealed clear bag.

In the non clear bag, I had a UR, Relic Robes, Belt of Constitution, ring of the hallowed, and the shin guards.
24 Rares, 14 uncommons, 7 monster bits

In the clear bag, I had a belt of constitution.... that is it....
21 rares, 12 uncommon and 16 monster bits...

If we are going to have clear bags in the future, we just need the volunteer to pull them out by handfuls in front of the player until 50 are in the bag. It will slow down the procedure at token grabbing, but the mixes in the clear bags from what I heard later were really bad... So that makes me think that something fishy may have been going on...

I for one will never have an issue getting a sealed felt bag, but I don't think I will ever get the sealed clear bags again.

I think I'm in that camp also. I may get a sealed felt bag in the future, but I'll stay away from any clear bags.

jedibcg wrote:

Eldar wrote: Yeah I had significantly worse luck with the clear bags as my relic and UR from pulls were both out of my blue 50 bag and I got nothing relatively worth noting out of the other 3 clear bags. I would like to think this is just poor RNG, but based on what others have been saying maybe it wasn't?

Wasn't your relic and UR out of the same blue bag?

I think he just said that they were.

Mike Steele wrote:

jedibcg wrote:

Eldar wrote: Yeah I had significantly worse luck with the clear bags as my relic and UR from pulls were both out of my blue 50 bag and I got nothing relatively worth noting out of the other 3 clear bags. I would like to think this is just poor RNG, but based on what others have been saying maybe it wasn't?

Wasn't your relic and UR out of the same blue bag?

I think he just said that they were.

Yeah I was with him when he opened it. It was almost better than all my blue bags combined. I opened at least 8 and pulled 1 UR and 1 25k bar. So as much as you guys want to rail on the clear vs blue bags. From someone that opened both I didn't see a difference. I guess it would be nice to know if Kaledor's bags where both or just one or the other.

jedibcg wrote:

Mike Steele wrote: My sealed bags were all from the Saturday clear bags that Steve also got. I do believe that the tokens for the bags were pulled from the same source as the Treasure boxes. I do also agree with Steve that only one UR and nothing higher out of 1650 tokens is statistically unlikely given the distribution others got, although of course not statistically impossible.

These were also half the roughly half the bags I got. So if you add in mine you add another 450ish I ended up getting a Legendary and UR out of them. So you can add that into your calculation as being less likely. I wasn't certain if you got the clear because someone told me you got the last of the 50 bags when you turned in all your pulls at once. If that is the case they made more clear 50's later on Saturday because I pulled the last 3 out of the box Saturday evening. So I don't know if there were only 50 clear bags (not certain where that number came from) or I was misinformed about you getting the last of the bags.

I showed up Saturday and was told that all the bags were gone, but that they were going to make more. I came back later, and they had done the clear bags, and Trent got two and then I got all the rest - Trent, don't tell me if you got five Legendary tokens from your two bags. Did you get your clear bag with the Legendary soon after then put them out? So far, that's the only token of note I've heard of pulled out of the clear bags. I didn't realize that there were felt bags until reading them on the forums.

The clear bags seem like a huge risk, as it would be easy for someone if they were ever alone with them to open them and pull out any Relics and Legendary tokens (and any URs if they took a bit more time), or to peek at them and make sure they got the sealed bags with the good tokens. I could tell pretty quickly without even opening my bags after I pulled them that there weren't any Relics or Legendary tokens in them (not that I expected a Legendary token, I've never pulled one and would be very pleasantly surprised to ever pull one in the future). Maybe Jeff just didn't have any more large felt bags to use. Next year, I'd recommend making twice the number of felt bags they felt were needed ahead of time, just to cover demand.

I've not yet unpacked but I tried to take good notes this year.
I have a pretty good mix of pulls from box and bags of the various types and various times. I was on the last run of the con and did a bulk pull then as well.

My gut says over all this year had more monster bits and less other cool stuff than last year.
I'll see what the numbers show.

Mike Steele wrote:

jedibcg wrote:

Mike Steele wrote: My sealed bags were all from the Saturday clear bags that Steve also got. I do believe that the tokens for the bags were pulled from the same source as the Treasure boxes. I do also agree with Steve that only one UR and nothing higher out of 1650 tokens is statistically unlikely given the distribution others got, although of course not statistically impossible.

These were also half the roughly half the bags I got. So if you add in mine you add another 450ish I ended up getting a Legendary and UR out of them. So you can add that into your calculation as being less likely. I wasn't certain if you got the clear because someone told me you got the last of the 50 bags when you turned in all your pulls at once. If that is the case they made more clear 50's later on Saturday because I pulled the last 3 out of the box Saturday evening. So I don't know if there were only 50 clear bags (not certain where that number came from) or I was misinformed about you getting the last of the bags.

I showed up Saturday and was told that all the bags were gone, but that they were going to make more. I came back later, and they had done the clear bags, and Trent got two and then I got all the rest - Trent, don't tell me if you got five Legendary tokens from your two bags. Did you get your clear bag with the Legendary soon after then put them out? So far, that's the only token of note I've heard of pulled out of the clear bags. I didn't realize that there were felt bags until reading them on the forums.

The clear bags seem like a huge risk, as it would be easy for someone if they were ever alone with them to open them and pull out any Relics and Legendary tokens (and any URs if they took a bit more time), or to peek at them and make sure they got the sealed bags with the good tokens. I could tell pretty quickly without even opening my bags after I pulled them that there weren't any Relics or Legendary tokens in them (not that I expected a Legendary token, I've never pulled one and would be very pleasantly surprised to ever pull one in the future). Maybe Jeff just didn't have any more large felt bags to use. Next year, I'd recommend making twice the number of felt bags they felt were needed ahead of time, just to cover demand.

If you did get the last of the bags what time as it because they had 3 left when I went at 6-6:30. So either they made more before or after that, because my three were the last 3 at that time.

BC, they must have had made more before and after that. I got the last 10 bags around 2 PM I think, I'm guessing those are the first wave they made on Saturday. I got four more after our Saturday run, and that was around 11 PM I think. There were a few left after I got those four. It sounds like the three you got were from a different batch than mine.

Mike Steele wrote: BC, they must have had made more before and after that. I got the last 10 bags around 2 PM I think, I'm guessing those are the first wave they made on Saturday. I got four more after our Saturday run, and that was around 11 PM I think. There were a few left after I got those four. It sounds like the three you got were from a different batch than mine.

Sounds then like there were at least 3 different batches of the clear 50 bags.

I got 2 clear bags Saturday around 9:30p.

My 1 UR was from a clear bag on Sat, FWIW.

jedibcg wrote:

Eldar wrote: Yeah I had significantly worse luck with the clear bags as my relic and UR from pulls were both out of my blue 50 bag and I got nothing relatively worth noting out of the other 3 clear bags. I would like to think this is just poor RNG, but based on what others have been saying maybe it wasn't?

Wasn't your relic and UR out of the same blue bag?

Yeah that is what my post says